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re: Perfect season for LSU's expanded passing attack, and here's why.

Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:34 am to
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:34 am to
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Alabama didn't lose just one or two defensive backs. It lost all four starters in the secondary, plus its top reserve. Oh, and it also has a new position coach in Karl Scott. --


Yeah, damn straight!! Plus, their head coach knows nothing about coaching defensive backs.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93803 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:35 am to
Exactly. Also, the arguement can be turned right around on LSU as well. So, Bama lost their secondary and their coach. LSU lost it's QB, top 2 WRs and RBs. LSU has a new OC, WR Coach, OL coach and TE coach. One head coach has a good record of hiring position coaches and one does not. Also, one team has recruited better than the other.

That doesn't mean LSU has no chance or anything like that. I just find it a strange position to take in favor of LSU.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4309 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:48 am to
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TigerLunatik


I'm all for being positive, but some of these cats need a reality check. Don't throw stones in a glass house.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:51 am to
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Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:54 am to
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This is stupid. In order to achieve our goals we need to beat Bama


I don't understand why people keep saying this. If LSU wins every game on their schedule except the Bama game you think they're not getting in the playoffs? LSU can continue to lose the Bama game every year for the next 20 years and if they sweep the rest of their schedule in all 20 of those years, they're going to the playoffs in every single one of those years.

And the reverse of that? Ole Miss beat Bama twice and didn't do shite in either one of those seasons. Auburn beat them last year. How close did Auburn get to the college football playoffs?
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 9:02 am
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21311 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:54 am to
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What was LSU's weakest link?


I thought this was a fair question.

The weakest link was the one posted in the OP, where we could read the rest of the breakdown.
Why do people quote articles, but not provide a link? It’s such a failure around here.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:00 am to
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Yeah, damn straight!! Plus, their head coach knows nothing about coaching defensive backs


Well to be fair, Satan's strength isnt as a defensive back coach. Saban would only ever be successful as a head honcho because his strength is in building and maintaining structure and recruiting. Alabama usually has a few games every year where they give up a ton of yardage to some high-powered passing attack. That almost never happens to LSU.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28497 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:05 am to
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Bama’s front 7 has covered their terrible cb play for years. Until we get the mules on our front to stop that it will be the same story different day. I


I don't know if I would go so far as to say Bama has had "terrible" CB play for years, but I agree with your general sentiment. When the front 7 is blowing everything up, it's pretty easy to cover guys down field. More than anything, Bama's complete dominance of the LOS (on both sides) has been the key to their success. It's much easier to plug in skill players when you own the LOS.

While I'm not an O fan by any means, I'll give him credit for recognizing and trying to rectify the fact that LSU has been getting outclassed along the LOS for a few years now. The 2011 defense was so good because the front 4 routinely blew everything up. Teams couldn't run on LSU and LSU could get pressure without having to blitz.

This year's DL could, COULD, be a return to that level of play. If they play up to their talent, Lawrence/Alexander/Fehoko are significantly better than guys like Lacatoure, Gilmore, Herron, etc. Throw in the fact that LSU has maybe the best all around MLB since Kelvin Sheppard (Beckwith wasn't great at going sideline to sideline) and things could be really good IF they can find some OLB's to get after the QB.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17715 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:09 am to
Let's worry about Miami first. They are a good team ya know.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93803 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:36 am to
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I'm all for being positive

I couldn't agree more man. There's a lot of potential on this team, but I'm a realist and go by what I've seen. I depend on the guys like Cliff and Mike to keep my grounded and not go off the deep end into pessimism. I think every fanbase needs those guys. I just don't get why some of the optimists get butt hurt when they're positions are challenged with objective facts.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 9:39 am
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:42 am to
You are correct. I do not know if it was bad DB play for BAMA but the front seven made the DBs better. There was a time that LSU front 7 had that impact. Maybe 2018 is the time it comes back.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:43 am to
agree
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:43 am to
Perfect season to pass, a-hole, not ‘a perfect season’ per say. Simply saying the perfect time, perfect season to be passing the ball when one of LSU’s greatest hurdles is Alabama, a team with a zero secondary and zero assistant coaching experience in the SEC.

Jesus Christ some of you fans are pathetic.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39986 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:51 am to
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No.1 Alabama: Secondary
Alabama didn't lose just one or two defensive backs. It lost all four starters in the secondary, plus its top reserve. Oh, and it also has a new position coach in Karl Scott.

How many years in a row do people have to talk about Bama losing a lot of players before they realize it doesn't matter? Saban just reloads. And he specializes in the defensive backfield. Bama's secondary will be nasty until proven otherwise.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93803 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:58 am to
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Simply saying the perfect time, perfect season to be passing the ball when one of LSU’s greatest hurdles is Alabama

And I'm simply saying you don't go into a season designing your offense around 4 or 5 players on one team.
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Jesus Christ some of you fans are pathetic.

Says the guy getting his feelings hurt when someone brings up facts to challenge an arguement.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:05 am to
I brought the facts, you brought an attitude, that whatever the facts it doesn’t matter, my post was pointless in other words.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12267 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:13 am to
This topic cannot be completely explored without asking how the LSU OL pass protection will be. Based on the Spring game alone, that issue represents a serious flaw in the OP's argument. And the discussions about Bama's front 7 are dead on...
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93803 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:16 am to
I have no clue who you think I brought an attitude or why you felt the need to call me an a-hole. But, if you're concerned with people not agreeing with you, maybe don't start threads on a message board. Especially considering the post that you chose to reply from. I said nothing out of line or in any way derogatory towards you at all.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73550 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:18 am to
The problem is that we always play Bama late in the season after they have a bye week to prepare, and any weakness they had before has been addressed by then.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93803 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:25 am to
That's also a good point P. Let's hope this new coaching staff can make the necessary adjustments when that time comes. Both before the game and in game as well.
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