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re: People who hated the O hire - thoughts now?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:26 am to Nomojeaux
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:26 am to Nomojeaux
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Everything is trending positive right now, and you can't stand it.
we played the easiest sec schedule in 2 decades and still lost 3 games.
if 3 losses is trending in the right direction then why fire miles? you know the coach that has actually proven he can be a decent coach.
its laughable that a season with the worst loss in lsu msu history and the 1st loss to a mid major in 16 years is now considered trending in the right direction.
i highly doubt we will play another schedule like this....
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Chattanooga- 8 losses byu- 9 losses Syracuse-8 losses Florida- 7 losses tenn- 8 losses a&m -5 losses...
i do agree the juco recruits were a nice pick up but this season isnt a success nor is it a massive failure.
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:30 am to BDJ
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Oh I agree. The floor should be 10 winds but it’s laughable how 10 wins isn’t good enough for people around here. Yea. It’s not a chip
agreed. i think most people acting like 10 wins isnt a decent season are saying so because 10 wins was deems underachieving for the last regime.
if we win our bowl game then IMO its a slightly above average season because of how weak our schedule was.
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How many programs would love to have a “down year” that is 10 wins?
oh i agree. i used to get called every name in the book for saying how hard it was to win even 9 games every year.
from 2009-2013 only 4 programs weer able to win 9 games every year and lsu was one of them.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:37 am to siliconvalleytiger
At the end of the day, I am an LSU fan not a Coach (insert name) fan. Sure, like most people I have an opinion of who I would consider as a "good" hire as a new head coach. However, my opinion not withstanding, I root for my team to win regardless of who the coach is...
As far as Coach O is concerned, I will know more about his tenure he after his 3rd year here not his 1st year.
As far as Coach O is concerned, I will know more about his tenure he after his 3rd year here not his 1st year.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:55 am to BDJ
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Oh I agree. The floor should be 10 winds but it’s laughable how 10 wins isn’t good enough for people around here. Yea. It’s not a chip. That’s the ultimate goal. We all get that. We are the 1% though. How many programs would love to have a “down year” that is 10 wins?
Since when has judging this football team been about winning 10 games? We've been winning 10 games pretty much every year other than 2014 and Miles still got fired.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:02 am to BDJ
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Oh I agree. The floor should be 10 winds but it’s laughable how 10 wins isn’t good enough for people around here. Yea. It’s not a chip. That’s the ultimate goal. We all get that. We are the 1% though. How many programs would love to have a “down year” that is 10 wins?
We fired a guy that averaged 10 wins. We fired him to get better. So no, in a down SEC, 10 wins isn't anything special.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:12 am to Nomojeaux
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He has been here 1 year, good god.
I agree. His sample size is small. But still hasn't proved he is better than Miles would have been.
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his conference record is better than what miles put out his last few years
Yes. but again. Only 1 year and it could have been better but he lost to Troy.
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and he is actually addressing weaknesses
he is trying to which is a nice change of pace from Miles.
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He will also have an 80% winning percentage when they spank Miami.
pump the brakes on spanking Miami. We don't always play well early and they can generate big plays.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:14 am to siliconvalleytiger
Damn dude how many alters does Ponamsky have???
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:26 am to Nomojeaux
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You got some issues man. We get that Lsu is your life. Sad, but true. Not all of us let Lsu sports control our life, although I still go to many home and away games. As I've said, I've posted on here in the past, but quit because of posters like you. You make it toxic on here. Some people, many people, are excited about the direction of the program, given some events going on that are clearly a change from the past regime. I suppose miserable, negative individuals like you feel it is your duty to inform everyone that the sky is truly falling at Lsu. If you are truly as old as you say, and are real and not a troll, you need to check yourself and think about what is truly most important in life. If that answer comes back Lsu sports, then I truly feel sorry for you. Now, geaux Tigers.
Ad hominem atatcks rather than addressing any points made. As usual, well done.
Literally none of that bullshite you just posted describes me on this board. For years I was declared a fricking sunshine pumper for backing the program under Miles. I didn't run you off, since you almost certainly were never here to begin with.
I have a very specific and defined issue with this hire and have been vocal about it. My "negativity" runs that deep, and that's about as far as it goes.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:27 am to Goldrush25
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Since when has judging this football team been about winning 10 games? We've been winning 10 games pretty much every year other than 2014 and Miles still got fired.
I guess since we haven’t competed for sec title since 2011. Miles got fired for going 15-11 in the SEC since 2012.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:33 am to Topwater Trout
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I guess since we haven’t competed for sec title since 2011. Miles got fired for going 15-11 in the SEC since 2012.
What's your idea of competing? We were undefeated under Miles heading into November in 2015. Does that count? You could say we were in the race in 2012 and 2013 too.
I get your shtick is to give Miles 0 credit for anything, but I'm curious what your criteria are for "competing" for the SEC.
ETA: And why'd you cutoff the timeline at 2012? Is it because we went 6-2 in league that year? What an arbitrary cut off, almost as if you're trying to minimize Miles's accomplishments here.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:52 am to R11
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This message board and his tenure gives the poor guy purpose.
You know you have a higher posting rate than he does, huh?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:05 am to LNCHBOX
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hat's your idea of competing? We were undefeated under Miles heading into November in 2015. Does that count? You could say we were in the race in 2012 and 2013 too.
And lost 3 straight. Is that competing for an sec title to you?
We were in the exact same position (competing for the sec) going into the Bama game this year...and didn’t lose the next 2
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:19 am to Topwater Trout
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I guess since we haven’t competed for sec title since 2011. Miles got fired for going 15-11 in the SEC since 2012.
And in the worst year for the SEC in quite some time we still aren't competing for SEC championships. So how is Orgeron an upgrade?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:22 am to Goldrush25
If we beat Bama we were in sec championship game...is that not competing? Beating the west champ and losing to Bama finishing 1 game back
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:25 am to Topwater Trout
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If we beat Bama we were in sec championship game...is that not competing?
That's been the case for most of the past years.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:29 am to Goldrush25
We avoided the Bama hangover under O the last 2 years...Arkansas whipped up on us the last 2 years with miles
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:31 am to siliconvalleytiger
I agree with those who say that this issue is like a ship that has sailed away over the horizon.
Nothing is going to change WRT what happened during those times when LSU was transitioning from Miles to O. The process lasted from the end of one season when many said that Miles should be fired to the promotion of O to Interim HC during the next season.
All I will say is that the LSU "powers-that-be" did not seem to demonstrate expertise in completing the task at hand.
Nothing is going to change WRT what happened during those times when LSU was transitioning from Miles to O. The process lasted from the end of one season when many said that Miles should be fired to the promotion of O to Interim HC during the next season.
All I will say is that the LSU "powers-that-be" did not seem to demonstrate expertise in completing the task at hand.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:32 am to LNCHBOX
Probably because most were pleased with Miles up until about 2013. Many, like myself, acknowledge he did great things at Lsu, but was in a definite downward trend and refused to change.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:33 am to Topwater Trout
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We avoided the Bama hangover under O the last 2 years...Arkansas whipped up on us the last 2 years with miles
We lost to Florida in 2016.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:36 am to Goldrush25
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We lost to Florida in 2016.
At home. And Florida was somewhat depleted. But of course O gets a pass. Someone ran the wrong way or something. We outplayed them in every facet except the score or something like that.
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