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re: Pelini says Tigers didn't have personnel for switch to 4-3; Ed Orgeron disagrees
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:07 pm to Rouge
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:07 pm to Rouge
quote:
Then why not run the 3-4 until you get the right pieces in place to run your preferred defense?
I'm sure O pushed for the switch to 4-3...
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Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:07 pm to Choot em Tiger
quote:
dumb coonass
Choot em Tiger
???
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:08 pm to jacksajester
quote:
Oddly, I trust Bo over O
All O does is lie.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:17 pm to CleanSlate
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Corey Raymond...
He’s was in staff last year. They didn’t frick up then.
And our safeties are nonexistent.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:18 pm to lsufan_26
quote:
I'm sure O pushed for the switch to 4-3..
Pushed for it? It's WHY he hired Pelini. O had dreams of Russell Maryland, Warren Sapp, Leonard Williams living in an opponent's backfield destroying plays. One problem. LSU doesn't have ANYONE close to that level among the DL this year. So to think that all of a sudden the returners from last season would become those types of players was naïve, bordering on stupid. Now, that's not to say LSU wouldn't get there eventually. But not this season. Which is why the desire to switch to the 4-3 lock, stock and barrel was asinine.
Play the scheme that fits your talent first. Then, if you want, recruit the talent to fit your scheme
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:21 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
O is good and bashing everyone else to keep the heat off of him.
O never seems to have the backs of the people he works with (including the players).
O never seems to have the backs of the people he works with (including the players).
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:23 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
At this point, who cares?? Just fix the damn problems and put this train back on track 
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:25 pm to Rouge
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:26 pm to chinhoyang
Oh he backs em alright, which I pray isn't true on his behalf
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:26 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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Winning the title last year went to his head
Ed O is the PERFECT example of someone who reads his own press clippings
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:27 pm to abellsujr
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Thats not really the point. The point is that they are publicly disagreeing with each other. It’s embarrassing and shows they’re not on the same page.
Right.
Orgeron needs Saban's policy. Assistants don't talk to media.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:31 pm to Keaux10
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Just fix the damn problems
The two people responsible for the defense can't even agree on what the problems are. It's hard to come up with a solution if you can't identify the problems correctly.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:38 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Ima go with Bo on this one Coach O lost me when he said " Our defense has looked better than any part of last year "
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:41 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:41 pm to Iam_PrinceAkeem
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Ima go with Bo on this one Coach O lost me when he said " Our defense has looked better than any part of last year "
I guess I'll defer to the guy who hasn't called a defense in 13 years over the guy who hasn't called a defense ever.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:47 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
dumpster. fire.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:47 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
It goes both ways. Busted coverage is on the secondary to know what they're doing and get their assignments right, but, a lack of interior pass rush due to having mostly 3-4 DT's will give opposing QB's too much time in the pocket. They are both right to an extent.
I lean more towards not having spring football as the biggest reason for the defense decline. LSU needed those weeks to get the LB group sorted out and to get the DB's up to speed, particularly the safeties. Vincent would have helped immensely in the secondary, there's no denying that he was a big loss.
I lean more towards not having spring football as the biggest reason for the defense decline. LSU needed those weeks to get the LB group sorted out and to get the DB's up to speed, particularly the safeties. Vincent would have helped immensely in the secondary, there's no denying that he was a big loss.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 1:54 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Does O agree with any other coach besides Ensminger? Doesn't seem like it.
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 12/3/20 at 2:00 pm to tigerbait1.6
I been ragging on Pelini since week 1 but it’s refreshing to hear him say this and acknowledge the root issue. It was never going to be an overnight transition like O thought it was.
Gotta at least respect him admitting this and not blaming it on players, effort, attrition, covid, etc.
Gotta at least respect him admitting this and not blaming it on players, effort, attrition, covid, etc.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 2:02 pm to Alt26
I definitely get that. Rouge asked why not run the 3-4 until you have the personnel and I was simply stating that O probably wanted to convert to the 4-3 as soon as Aranda was gone.
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