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re: Paul Manieri will go on his own terms

Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by MikeEhrmantraut
Anchorage, Alaska
Member since Nov 2020
898 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:12 pm to
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PM will step down after this season.


My thinking is after the 2022 season. He’ll announce it and then coach a farewell next season.
Posted by PurpleExile
Member since Dec 2020
453 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:21 pm to
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Maybe he is tired, biggest question is from what? It’s not like he does anything. He doesn’t recruit, he doesn’t handle pitching, he doesn’t handle hitting. He doesn’t even know what his players can or can’t do.


Well, he has had two neck surgeries. And he doesn’t exactly stride jauntily to the mound on one of his many pitching changes. So retiring for “health reasons” is neither far-fetched or in bad taste.

Frankly, he seems like a guy who, if he gets his money, would just quietly go away. #crossingfingers

I honestly think he put it in final cruise control after the 2017 CWS finals. He knows what his record in Omaha was after the 2009 title and I think he felt he vindicated himself just by getting to the final in 2017. Of course, we don’t think that way at LSU.

Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12118 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:31 pm to
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PM will step down after this season.


I have no information but from watching him he looks like a defeated individual.
I also suspect this is his last year.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47591 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:35 pm to
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He doesn’t even know what his players can or can’t do.


I'm no Baseball nerd but I've been to more home games than most of the Rant and watch/listen to every away game. He experiments more than any coach I've ever seen, often at the befuddlement of the fans and media. Remember Hellmers at 3b? That didn't work out but he saw something so he tried it.
Bianco or Sanford this weekend? He saw something.
Didn't he say the wind would affect his decision on who to play in a game?
The Advocate talks about this exact thing

To say Mainieri doesn't know what his players can do is not fair or accurate. I think he puts too much stock in what they do in practices leading up to each game/series rather than their overall ability. I'd call him a Micromanager to a fault.
I've called him "The Tinkerer" ever since 2008 b/c of that strategy when we went on a streak after he tinkered. But it's more of a gamble.


This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 5:36 pm
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6290 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:38 pm to
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I'm no Baseball nerd but I've been to more home games than most of the Rant and watch/listen to every away game. He experiments more than any coach I've ever seen, often at the befuddlement of the fans and media. Remember Hellmers at 3b? That didn't work out but he saw something so he tried it.
Bianco or Sanford this weekend? He saw something.
Didn't he say the wind would affect his decision on who to play in a game?
The Advocate talks about this exact thing

To say Mainieri doesn't know what his players can do is not fair or accurate. I think he puts too much stock in what they do in practices leading up to each game/series rather than their overall ability. I'd call him a Micromanager to a fault.
I've called him "The Tinkerer" ever since 2008 b/c of that strategy when we went on a streak after he tinkered. But it's more of a gamble.



I just want to say its refreshing to see a level headed informative posts on here/. I agree with what youre saying and IMO its why his teams start off slow and then peak at the end. The question I have now with Paul is the pressure to win another championship before he retires becoming too much?
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 5:40 pm
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4364 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:46 pm to
just like lsu wouldn't fire pelini after 1 year with that contract


marinara is done
Posted by Geaux002
Member since Jan 2021
1088 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:48 pm to
I’m not sure what he does anymore He’s getting 1.2 million to do some interviews and throw a tantrum or 2. Then sit down with his pouting face on.
Hard to give up 1.25 million a year for doing nothing and know it doesn’t matter. We need a shot of energy to the program. Has been content to be stale for last few years.
Go get Cannizzaro
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Go get Cannizzaro
Why?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47591 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:50 pm to
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The question I have now with Paul is the pressure to win another championship before he retires becoming too much?


The pressure comes from success. This team wasn't even supposed to be good this year. The talk was about NEXT year. But our freshmen bats had something to say about it.
Coming into February it was "LSU Baseball has No offense" they said. "All LSU has is pitching" they said.
But we started winning and hitting the longball like it was 1997.

Now Here we are heading into April leading the country in HR's while our pitching staff struggles to finish games. I think I heard 16 'free passes' were given this weekend by our pitchers. And our fans are mad at Paul Mainieri? Two walks are on him in my opinion for leaving Hill in too long. That's it.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 5:51 pm
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5486 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:51 pm to
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To say Mainieri doesn't know what his players can do is not fair or accurate. I think he puts too much stock in what they do in practices leading up to each game/series rather than their overall ability.

What was that?


So to clarify... this guy knows his players?
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12074 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:54 pm to
Paul is a grown arse man ! frick lasorda !

My mom died when I was 25 years old. My died dad when I was 46 years old. My brother died when he was 53.

shite happens !!!!! Paul can afford therapy ! What else is he doing with his time. Get the f-outa here with he misses his daddy.

Half of my hood missed their daddy. Grow the frick up bro.
Posted by Pope Alexander VI
1490s Vatican
Member since Mar 2021
344 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:58 pm to
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His father and father figure, Tommy Lasorda passing away.


It’s been two years since Demie Mainieri passed away.

I understand grief and the tailspin it can send you into. I’ve been there. But there’s a certain point, when if it’s affecting your job, it’s time to either get some counseling or move on. You’re shortchanging the people who pay your salary if you do neither.

Maybe he is getting grief counseling. But if so, it’s not showing up in his job performance.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 5:59 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164609 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:59 pm to
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I believe the talking point will soon shift to “the next few years are going to be bright”. And that it will be pushed that he deserves to see it thru. Covid will surely be used as a crutch, knowing Paul.


No one with a brain thinks he gets fired this season.

But since the future is supposed to be bright when LSU is bad in 2022 he'll be fired.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47591 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:00 pm to
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So to clarify... this guy knows his players?



Yep. You didn't bold the second sentence.
I think he puts too much stock in what they do in practices leading up to each game/series rather than their overall ability.

And Peterson was an incredibly unusual circumstance. And it worked out well.

I'm an admitted baseball retard who rarely knows why we bunt or shift. But I'm a dedicated fan who has been out there for 25 years and I pay attention.

This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158837 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:02 pm to
Covid saved his arse. If not this likely would have been his second bad team in a row
Posted by HooverTiger
Hoover, AL
Member since Dec 2007
71 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:02 pm to
PM looked totally unengaged today. I think he’s waiting for the season to end.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7356 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:06 pm to
I think thw poster meant "health problems" as in we want him to be healthy and we wish him well.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7356 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:14 pm to
I said this several times last year, and got a ton of crap from the old guard.
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3220 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:42 pm to
The former players hate him, the current players hate him, and finally, the fans hate him. The circle is almost complete.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:43 pm to
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The former players hate him, the current players hate him,


According to Chris Reid, you’re incorrect.
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