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re: Paul Mainieri: "I thought our kids knew how to prepare themselves and be ready to go.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:54 am to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:54 am to LSUFanHouston
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Apparently these players these days - babied through travel ball - need to be babied in college as well, and he won't/can't baby them
You think Tim Corbin, and Dave Van Horn baby their players?
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:55 am to Sir Fury
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Just because something is “simple”, doesn’t make it “easy”. Baseball is a simple game, but it isn’t easy. Don’t confuse the two.
Fair. Perhaps simple is a better term. Point being, you don't have the playbook complexities and weekly game planning that you do in football or even basketball.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:57 am to Midtiger farm
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You think Tim Corbin, and Dave Van Horn baby their players?
I think everything about Vandy is babying the players. Also, many of them get full schollies.
Van Horn? He wears his heart on his sleeve. That seems to respond well with this age group these days.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:57 am to Meauxjeaux
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I'll give Paul this win for the season - I didn't see anything Arnold did at SS that should have caused a move when Mainieri pulled him off short. Thompson at short instead of 3B has proven to be a fantastic move.
What did Paul watch all fall and winter practice? Paul recruited a shortstop from California and then is surprised the kid is good at defense? California baseball is known for pitching, defense, and small ball.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 9:58 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:59 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:You're looking at the mental problem as the cause and not a symptom of something else. Everywhere these guys have played, they've been successful. It's not like they don't know how to win or know how to prepare or know how to focus. They can do all of these things but they're suddenly not motivated to do so. Yes, some of that may be internal to each player. It could be an excellent learning opportunity for them. But we didn't get here because they are quitters or can't be motivated. They are not the underlying problem.
This is a player mental problem, and that's hard for any coach to deal with, especially a coach that isn't exactly a rah-rah "players coach" to begin with.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 9:59 am to ell_13
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It's baseball. It's not a hard game.
Ya - that might be one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:01 am to ell_13
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joke, but would anyone blame him to get into next year's draft? What else does he have to prove and does he really feel LSU can get a title?
It could happen, but id imagine with the NIL stuff plus probably a new coaching staff, he will have some financial and other reasons to want to stay. It would surprise me if he left.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:02 am to LSUFanHouston
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you don't have the playbook complexities and weekly game planning that you do in football or even basketball.
So you think guys don't (or shouldn't yikes!) study the tendencies of the opponents pitchers and hitters? You don't think coaches should look at what the other teams do or or not do good and find ways to exploit that?
Come on, man.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:03 am to josh336
quote:Me too.
It would surprise me if he left.
quote:He will get a much bigger signing bonus than he could make on social media pushing products.
the NIL stuff
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:03 am to ell_13
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They can do all of these things but they're suddenly not motivated to do so. Yes, some of that may be internal to each player. It could be an excellent learning opportunity for them. But we didn't get here because they are quitters or can't be motivated. They are not the underlying problem.
It's easy to be motivated when you are successful and you are the big fish in a small pond. It's a problem when they are only motivated when successful.
Baseball is a streaky game. You have to be able to push past the times when you are struggling. These kids are mailing it in. Like I said, I think at this point, some may have written off the season.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:05 am to josh336
given Crews intentionally took his name out of last year's drfat because he said he wanted to play college baseball, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for him to go to JUCO. If it was all about the money and getting to that point sooner, he'd already be a millionaire. I think I'd be more concerned about the transfer without penalty rule than anything else. He doesn't have any inherent ties to LSU like some of our guys do. Regardless, I'd still be shocked to see him go.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:09 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:Like I said, it would be a great learning opportunity. But let's not pretend this doesn't happen at every level. Eventually, players/teams fail. For some, it happens in travel ball... some in high school.... some in college... and for a rare few, it's the pros. Everyone, even great players, struggle with that adjustment. We can't all be MJs.
It's easy to be motivated when you are successful and you are the big fish in a small pond. It's a problem when they are only motivated when successful.
quote:I guarantee you many of these kids have faced slumps. They know that sometimes you have to push through. But when you get to high level college, you aren't always given the Bregman treatment and allowed to wait for you to come out of it. Again, that's new and difficult for anyone especially when you feel like your'e doing everything right.
You have to be able to push past the times when you are struggling.
quote:We aren't good enough. We know that. And they're not dumb either. At no point during this season... 52 games... have we shown we can be consistent. That isn't going to happen just because we go to Hoover. Not excusing them. But writing off the season is where everyone is. Not just them.
These kids are mailing it in. Like I said, I think at this point, some may have written off the season.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:09 am to Meauxjeaux
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you don't have the playbook complexities and weekly game planning that you do in football or even basketball.
So you think guys don't (or shouldn't yikes!) study the tendencies of the opponents pitchers and hitters? You don't think coaches should look at what the other teams do or or not do good and find ways to exploit that?
Come on, man.
I'm gonna pile on here...
I'll argue that baseball requires more coaching prep and planning and in-game decision making and strategy than nearly any other game.
It changes pitch by pitch... sun, changes, wind changes, tall grass, short grass... that's before you get to how players are performing in the moment, the situation, etc...
It's a game where you decide situation A is 50.7% success and situation B is 49.3% and you go with A - and then B happens alot.
If you really get into the game, there's more "complexities" and "planning" than nearly any other sport.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:10 am to ehidal1
Screw that lil prick
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:10 am to lsufball19
quote:As you should be. Forget Crews. This is going to impact other players.
I think I'd be more concerned about the transfer without penalty rule than anything else.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:11 am to ell_13
Right, but he would have to wait another year to get that signing bonus by going juco
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:14 am to Meauxjeaux
If you equate a pitch call with a play call, then yeah it gets more complex. Although there are may be only 20 or so pitch options when factoring in location of pitch, but really your options are smaller depending on situation. Like a 3-0 pitch will very rarely be anything other than a FB. But yes, pitching and hitting and defensive planning takes place. It's not as involved as a football game though. The film study isn't as extensive at the college level although it does get meticulous at the pro level. Baseball analytics are OOC.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:15 am to ell_13
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And, before you get your feelings hurt, I acknowledge that you do this on purpose.
Now who's trolling?
Trolling? I'm saying you aren't a dumbass unintentionally. I was trying to disarm you.
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No. I'm here for the reasons I said. You made this convo about me.
I commented on your opinions. You started in on why you were here and what your motivation was. Frankly, I don't care.
But, it's reasonable to expect that someone that is logically out of line 50% of the time whether it be because he doesn't understand the game, has a personal bias on the subject, or is just trolling for attention would have his opinions dismissed. That's not a YOU thing. That's an ANYONE thing. I'm just pointing out that you are in that bucket. You are so out of line with some of your opinions that it's unreasonable to take anything you say as on the level.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:17 am to josh336
So he gets 30k over a year doing instagram ads for Matt Flynn's sports drink or he waits 8 months and makes 5 million dollars 12 months ahead of time.
I agree that him leaving would be a shock. But my point is really about if he's ready to go pro sooner. Yes, he chose college last year. His stock had fallen slightly. But he's been in college a year now. He can say he's done it, had a good time, and is ready to go sooner. I'm pretty sure the pressure to do that exists.
I agree that him leaving would be a shock. But my point is really about if he's ready to go pro sooner. Yes, he chose college last year. His stock had fallen slightly. But he's been in college a year now. He can say he's done it, had a good time, and is ready to go sooner. I'm pretty sure the pressure to do that exists.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 10:21 am to moneyg
quote:Yes. The feelings hurt sentence. It was a joke. Don't harp on it.
Trolling?
quote:frick off.
he doesn't understand the game
quote:That I can set aside when I want.
has a personal bias on the subject
quote:I troll when I think it's funny. I mess with Poncho because it humors me. Russian (when he was alive) because it was easy to set him off. I'm a selfish lover.
just trolling for attention
quote:Like what?
You are so out of line with some of your opinions that it's unreasonable to take anything you say as on the level.
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