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re: Paul Mainieri: "I thought our kids knew how to prepare themselves and be ready to go.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:12 am to Sir Fury
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:12 am to Sir Fury
quote:
1. He Acknowledged that.
Paul blames the players: "How dare he throw these kids under the bus!"
Paul takes the blame himself: "How dare he not have them ready!"
Paul shouldn't have to give a pep talk 50-60 times a year for the players to be ready to go.
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Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:00 am to ehidal1
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:01 am to ehidal1
What's even worse is NW State's scrub pitchers beat LSU
Francis 4.91 era 7.1 innings pitched
Graham 9.82 era 3.2 innings pitched
Cossio 8.10 era 6.2 innings pitched
Taylor 4.97 era 12.2 innings pitched
And LSU's midweek pitchers looked terrible, that bodes well for next year's staff
Francis 4.91 era 7.1 innings pitched
Graham 9.82 era 3.2 innings pitched
Cossio 8.10 era 6.2 innings pitched
Taylor 4.97 era 12.2 innings pitched
And LSU's midweek pitchers looked terrible, that bodes well for next year's staff
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:03 am to LSUFanHouston
He’s got 40 kids on the team. 9 should be ready to go. It’s his job to put those 9 in.
Player A isn’t showing out properly, sit him. I promise there’s a guy behind him who wants his job and will give the effort the game of baseball demands to be played at a high level.
Player A isn’t showing out properly, sit him. I promise there’s a guy behind him who wants his job and will give the effort the game of baseball demands to be played at a high level.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:04 am to LSUFanHouston
To be fair, Paul blamed everyone here. He blamed them for not being ready because he’s saying they thought they wouldn’t play due to weather. It’s an odd thing to point to. Is that the case for every player? Is it why Crews got picked off? Or was he speculating? Either way, he eventually says it’s up to him to have them ready and focused. But he says it in a backhanded way because he’s claiming he didn’t think he would have to do anything to get them focused here. As if this team is less motivated than any he’s ever had. I think there’s something there. Why aren’t they motivated? How many already have the foot out the door?
Are we forgetting that the team looked like shite last week too? Top 25 team and the last chance to get a good win and they nearly shite the bed. We got lucky because Tech was using multiple pitchers too. We gave up 8 runs but scored a ton and everyone forgot how badly we came out the gate.
My point is this is a pattern. It wasn’t just one game. This team isn’t focused and, apparently, Paul only just noticed. Last week he tried to send a message in the middle of the game. Guess he doesn’t know how to push the right buttons anymore.
Are we forgetting that the team looked like shite last week too? Top 25 team and the last chance to get a good win and they nearly shite the bed. We got lucky because Tech was using multiple pitchers too. We gave up 8 runs but scored a ton and everyone forgot how badly we came out the gate.
My point is this is a pattern. It wasn’t just one game. This team isn’t focused and, apparently, Paul only just noticed. Last week he tried to send a message in the middle of the game. Guess he doesn’t know how to push the right buttons anymore.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:06 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:06 am to ehidal1
Paul, they're young men, not kids. Please stop.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:10 am to ell_13
quote:
Guess he doesn’t know how to push the right buttons anymore.
It probably goes farther back than just this year, but his "button pushing" this season has been abysmal.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:12 am to ell_13
Agree and I am done beating up on Paul. It’s time for a change and it needs to happen. Paul’s lack of focus and fire has spread to the players and he can’t see it.
ETA- and exactly what happened to the game manager from last week vs Tech? He pushed the right buttons and sent a message. I guess he only had the focus or energy to do that one game
ETA- and exactly what happened to the game manager from last week vs Tech? He pushed the right buttons and sent a message. I guess he only had the focus or energy to do that one game
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:16 am to ehidal1
When was the last time Paul was focused? On anything?
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:17 am to ehidal1
quote:Did he though? He pulled guys early and Tech pulled their starter. They scored in the first 5 innings and the game was cut short after 7. I’m not sure whatever message he was trying to send actually got through. I think Tech’s bullpen is bad. That’s what I came away with.
He pushed the right buttons and sent a message. I guess he only had the focus or energy to do that one game
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:23 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:I love it when posters make a statement, then immediately clarify they have no idea what is going on.
What an insane lack of player leadership. It's starting to make sense now. These kids just don't care that much.
I really wonder how many times these players are staying after practice, getting extra time in the cage, etc.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:27 am to ell_13
quote:
How many already have the foot out the door?
I'm really hoping that guys don't make a final decision on being at LSU until there is clarity on the coaching situation. Normally you see a lot of roster turnover after a coaching change but I would guess we'd see more turnover without a change than with one.
But, that's been the pattern for a while now. I don't know why I should start exnpecting guys to stick around now when they ever really have in the past.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:27 am to tigerfoot
quote:
I love it when posters make a statement, then immediately clarify they have no idea what is going on
The effort (or lack thereof) on this team, as shown during games, causes me to believe they aren't putting in the work between games, either. They might show up to practice, but I would not be surprised if they aren't doing the "extras" that make players truly great.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:29 am to ehidal1
I’m beyond ready for this clown to go.
It’s a shame it can’t be done before the SEC tourney.
It’s a shame it can’t be done before the SEC tourney.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:30 am to ell_13
quote:
Did he though? He pulled guys early and Tech pulled their starter. They scored in the first 5 innings and the game was cut short after 7. I’m not sure whatever message he was trying to send actually got through. I think Tech’s bullpen is bad. That’s what I came away with.
Yes, but your hatred of Mainieri prevents you from evaluating things rationally. It's similar to a jilted lover.
In this case, it should not have taken a coach to intervene in the players being emotionally ready. The season is legitimately on the line. Players coming out flat is inexcusable.
Having said that, it's Mainieri's job to make sure they are ready. And, he failed at that, too. As a coach, you can't just say "they should have been ready" even if that's the case. You damn well better make sure they know what's on the line.
Of the two parties, the player angle is the most telling, IMO. It's an egregious failure of the most basic aspect of competition. And, it probably shows some of the behind the scenes stuff that exists and why this team has been so hard to manage. There have been so many mindbogglingly DUMB plays that can only be explained by pure arrogance.
These players haven't taken enough of the criticism for this season. They are on the cusp of finishing one of the worst seasons in baseball in a long time. And, they are going to be remembered for that.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:30 am to ProjectP2294
quote:ygm
I'm really hoping that guys don't make a final decision on being at LSU until there is clarity on the coaching situation. Normally you see a lot of roster turnover after a coaching change but I would guess we'd see more turnover without a change than with one.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:31 am to ell_13
quote:
My point is this is a pattern. It wasn’t just one game. This team isn’t focused and, apparently, Paul only just noticed. Last week he tried to send a message in the middle of the game. Guess he doesn’t know how to push the right buttons anymore.
I've said this before. I think Paul is a good coach, but I don't think he can relate to the players in 2021. He's too old school, too managerial. Apparently these players these days - babied through travel ball - need to be babied in college as well, and he won't/can't baby them.
I think the buttons he could press 10-15 years ago are no longer present on today's players, and he doesn't know / understand how to press the buttons that today's players have.
This is why I think retirement is the best decision. These players probably want a younger, hip coach who can relate to them. CPM is not that person.
I think the downfall of Rice and Wayne Graham was the same way.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:34 am to moneyg
quote:
Having said that, it's Mainieri's job to make sure they are ready. And, he failed at that, too. As a coach, you can't just say "they should have been ready" even if that's the case. You damn well better make sure they know what's on the line.
I get what you are saying, but these aren't 6 year olds. They are getting scholly money to play here, they should always know what is on the line.
50 games in... I think Paul knows what he has.
I think a culture change is needed... so yeah, Paul needs to retire, but I think some of our players need to get processed as well...
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:35 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:Seems to me the opposite, they seem to be pressing then trying too hard on the basepaths to make things happen.
The effort (or lack thereof) on this team, as shown during games, causes me to believe they aren't putting in the work between games, either. They might show up to practice, but I would not be surprised if they aren't doing the "extras" that make players truly great.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 8:36 am to moneyg
quote:No. I can be rational when I want to be. But when I am, I'm still told I'm being irrational because of the bias. It's subtle, but there's a difference. People use my bias against PM as a reason to discount everything I post regardless of validity. It's easy for them.
Yes, but your hatred of Mainieri prevents you from evaluating things rationally.
quote:I agree. It's inexcusable for them all. It was inexcusable last week, too. It was inexcusable months ago. There's a pattern. The games 4 weeks ago were just as important now.
it should not have taken a coach to intervene in the players being emotionally ready. The season is legitimately on the line. Players coming out flat is inexcusable.
quote:You lost me here. Examples?
There have been so many mindbogglingly DUMB plays that can only be explained by pure arrogance.
quote:I think they've taken a ton of it, honestly. Bianco and Gio and Milazzo have been singled out often. The bullpen as a whole gets told it is shite. But here's the kicker. None of them make a million dollars a year to win games at the collegiate level. While they should be held accountable by the coach (and to a small level the fans/media), it's the coach who should take the majority, no the VAST majority, of the blame. And for 1 million good reasons.
These players haven't taken enough of the criticism for this season. They are on the cusp of finishing one of the worst seasons in baseball in a long time. And, they are going to be remembered for that.
This post was edited on 5/19/21 at 8:39 am
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