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re: Passing offense: 2014-2018
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:08 am to lsupride87
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:08 am to lsupride87
Burrow is the best QB we've had since Mett.
This is the worst offensive line I've seen at LSU period.
This is the worst offensive line I've seen at LSU period.
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:14 am to GeauxTigerNation
quote:
Burrow is the best QB we've had since Mett.
This is the worst offensive line I've seen at LSU period.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:15 am to lsupride87
Why don't you go check out how clean Mettenbergers pockets we're compared to Burrow?
How many blind side sacks he's taken compared to Etling. Only a moron wouldn't see that.
How many blind side sacks he's taken compared to Etling. Only a moron wouldn't see that.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:17 am to GeauxTigerNation
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How many blind side sacks he's taken compared to Etling. Only a moron wouldn't see that.
In 2017, our offensive line was 113th in the country, with a sack rate of 9.03%
In 2018, our offensive line is 92nd in the country with a sack rate of 7.72%
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:28 am to CP3forMVP
quote:I posted the other day 2018 is on pace to complete about 40% of 2017 +25yd passes (14 vs 32). +15yds looks to end up less also unless there's a change (35 vs 57), so cfbstats.com's sit stats don't support your premise.
Aside from slants Ensminger's offense doesn't seem to really focus on getting rid of the ball quickly. Everything seems to be 15 yards downfield.
Not sure if limited by accuracy or just the scheme (maybe limited due to accuracy in practice).
In fact, 2014 and 2015's AJ/BH meh passing years have about the same att as 2018 so far yet are well ahead in +15yd/+25yd completions (about 50/25 each vs 35/14 in '18).
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
Pass attempts are missing in the OP.
If you look at stats, Jalen Hurts and Danny Etling were strikingly similar in 2017
Hurts: 60.4% on 255 attempts
Etling: 60% on 275 attempts
My point is, you don't have to have 6000 yards passing to win a natty. You need an offensive line.
Other stats:
Baker Mayfield
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Danny Etling
If you look at stats, Jalen Hurts and Danny Etling were strikingly similar in 2017
Hurts: 60.4% on 255 attempts
Etling: 60% on 275 attempts
My point is, you don't have to have 6000 yards passing to win a natty. You need an offensive line.
Other stats:
Baker Mayfield
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Danny Etling
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:31 am to GeauxTigerNation
quote:Missed 2009 season?
This is the worst offensive line I've seen at LSU period.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:37 am to TaderSalad
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With less than 40% of his offense installed and a weaker QB in a run first offense.
yep. run first use whole field (horizontal and vertical stecthes) like GUS and CUM concepts although not a power spread like them. yep what he did with etling was unreal given etlings limitations of pocket presence and run ability and downfield accuracy/progression issues at times. Canada schemed around that and gave him lots of safe high % throws.
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Ensminger is not the answer here if we want to beat Bama moving forward.
that much is blatantly obvious and we knew it before the season began
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:42 am to GeauxTigerNation
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Burrow is the best QB we've had since Mett.
agreed with that
quote:
This is the worst offensive line I've seen at LSU period.
you are far too young to amke a credible claim on this. you are only 25 years old. to say it is the worst you have seen is may be true but purely subjective and not using enough evidence over time. Other years have been worse. you were not alive yet but some under hallman were bad. very bad. dinardo had good to very good lines as he was a o lineman but issues in other areas LIKE SCHEMING once he lost watts and promoted his WR coach as OC in 1999!
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:46 am to Solo Cam
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I don’t think E should be fired but at some point we have to start producing a passing offense.
How about we go hire a bright OC and let him decide who stays and goes because what we are doing is not working.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:46 am to Solo Cam
look up passer rating and efficiency
etlings was fantastic last year
149.8 passer rating
etlings was fantastic last year
149.8 passer rating
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:50 am to lsupride87
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In 2017, our offensive line was 113th in the country, with a sack rate of 9.03%
In 2018, our offensive line is 92nd in the country with a sack rate of 7.72%
WELP. kills that narrative
and this is the reason as i have stated many times why people said our line was worse last year and our receivers were worse last year with a limited QB and shows how well canada did with those limitations.
we were supposed to be better this year at all those spots.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:10 am to GeauxTigerNation
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Burrow is the best QB we've had since Mett.
There is zero objective data to support this statement.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:11 am to memphis tiger
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There is zero objective data to support this statement.
true but he seems and looks like he could be with the EYE test alone
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:11 am to Solo Cam
How did Mett succeed in our terrible offense? Sigh.
And it's going downhill.
And it's going downhill.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:15 am to TigerKnights
quote:The offense has regressed ever since firing that coach for his offenses.
And it's going downhill.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:16 am to Earthquake 88
quote:Then the only alternative would be a return TE Coach. He's obviously "IOHH" at this level. Even with this god awful Sun Belt-SWAC level OL, he should be able to scheme/play call the Offense to more than 0 points against the Red Devils. (Arkansas put 31 up on them)
I don’t think E should be fired but at some point we have to start producing a passing offense.
In Over His Head At This Level.........
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:17 am to bstew3006
Nothing wrong with running the same play over and over: Peyton Manning ran one pass play 10-15 times a game.
Given the long-standing issues and LSU's history, there seems to be an institutional mindset of 'run the ball and play defense; win 9-10 so the stadium is full and hope for a lucky season.'
If LSU even had the USC offense Orgeron said he'd deliver, fans would be in the stadium for a full game to watch the fireworks.
Given the long-standing issues and LSU's history, there seems to be an institutional mindset of 'run the ball and play defense; win 9-10 so the stadium is full and hope for a lucky season.'
If LSU even had the USC offense Orgeron said he'd deliver, fans would be in the stadium for a full game to watch the fireworks.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:17 am to Fat Bastard
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true but he seems and looks like he could be with the EYE test alone
Was that the same eye test that said Brandon Harris would win 6 Heismans
Posted on 11/6/18 at 10:19 am to Mayhawman
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The offense has regressed ever since firing that coach for his offenses.
with exception of canada and the shite he had to deal with. a worse O line with a worse sack rate as has been posted in other thread. what he did with a limited, line, receivers and Qb was good. he schemed around weaknesses. E cannot do that
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