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re: Out of state tuition and room and board is about 50k per year

Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:13 pm to
You can’t be serious? Read what you just posted again.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:14 pm to
People with pathetic lives shouldn’t project Lestiny
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:18 pm to
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Ohio State made the most profit last season, it cost over 225mil in operating costs to make just over 251mil.

Ohio State, like everyone else, is a nonprofit. Per their NCAA financial report, they generated $279.5 million in revenue and had $274.9 million in operating costs, for a revenue surplus of $4.6 million. That surplus revenue is not “profit.” Over the long run the net revenue surplus will be zero, either because they reinvest the money into the program/institution or because of shortfalls in subsequent years. And as it turns out, Ohio State has reported that they expect a $10 million shortfall this year.
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Those are not great margins relatively speaking and that profit has to fund every other program minus basketball which pulls in around 2mil.

Again, they don’t have profit. And their operating expenses already include the cost of running the rest of their sports programs. According to their financial report, their football revenue was $114.2 million compared to $72.4 million in football expenses.
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They can’t afford a 105 man football roster all getting paid the way they already are.

They can’t afford it right now because, as non-profits, they’re sinking all of their revenue into other stuff. That will change.

As I said, the net surplus will be zero over the long term. They are going to spend the money somewhere. The increasing revenue has driven up coaching salaries, AD salaries, facilities investments, recruiting budgets, etc. because there are only so many places to put the money that actually help you compete.
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Your NFL comparison is irrelevant, it’s a totally different economic structure.

You’re the one who compared it to other businesses. I compared it to the single business that is closest in structure, and now it’s “totally different”? OK.
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I already said we overpay

And as I illustrated, by the metrics that you picked to justify coaching salaries, we pay just as much as everyone else. So if we overpay, everyone does.
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you’re misrepresenting the money

I’m not misrepresenting anything. You just don’t understand it.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:20 pm to
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And neither do you bc a competent coach wouldn’t want his players doing that shite.

Are you saying Brian Kelly and the majority of D1 coaches aren’t competent?
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Why would Canes be the ruling party? I think you are dumb

It’s just an example. Who would be the ruling party in your scenario?
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Coaches and players get incentive based bonuses in their contracts. Why is this so hard to understand? College players contracts should be strictly performance based.

So it shouldn’t be equivalent to NFL players and coaches contracts? Because you said it should.
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I mean what else is holding them accountable?

Uh the fact that their future career relies on how they play?
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You just want to give a player millions and then he be like Haynesworth or Randall Cobb.

You just named two players that played 10+ years in the NFL.
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These guys are even younger, what the frick do you think is going to happen?

I don’t care. It’s not my job to police people that make a lot of money.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:22 pm to
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You can’t be serious? Read what you just posted again.

Is that not what you said? I’m asking for clarification. Are you saying that donations to the university from events like homecoming is what pays the players?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12554 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:23 pm to
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Wrong

Please, elaborate so you can look even more misinformed.

I’ve already pointed out that the average power conference program generates about $100 million in revenue. The expected $21-23 million revenue sharing cap under the House settlement is based on 20% of average power conference revenue - do the math, that’s actually more than $100 million.

Now multiply that by 67 power conference schools (as of 2023, which is what the numbers were based on) and tell me how much you think it is.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:23 pm to
disingenuous liar
Posted by Madking
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65844 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:29 pm to
Lestiny melts are the best melts
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:29 pm to
No
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:30 pm to
Factually incorrect
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:30 pm to
This LSBoosie fella has been posting ITT for like 10 straight hours
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:31 pm to
He’s very limited
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:37 pm to
I’ve been trying to get through to them but guys like madking and howyouluhdat just aren’t very smart
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:51 pm to
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Are you saying Brian Kelly and the majority of D1 coaches aren’t competent?



Name the majority of players that are getting paid by YouTube and instagram regularly? You can’t so don’t say it as fact.

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Who would be the ruling party in your scenario?



Hopefully the NCAA grows some balls and pushes gov’t


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So it shouldn’t be equivalent to NFL players and coaches contracts? Because you said it should.



The incentive portion yes. Are you a mockingbird?


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Uh the fact that their future career relies on how they play?


Money will make you lazy and that’s the issue. Like 70-80% of pro athletes are bankrupt within 3 years of retirement. Why is that?

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You just named two players that played 10+ years in the NFL.


Yea the points keep going way over your head. It’s actually amazing

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I don’t care. It’s not my job to police people that make a lot of money.


So now you don’t want to answer for the byproduct of this bs?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 6:59 pm to
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I’ve been trying to get through to them but guys like madking and howyouluhdat just aren’t very smart



You are just a geek. The library closes any minute big guy. Hurry up
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16563 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:12 pm to
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Name the majority of players that are getting paid by YouTube and instagram regularly? You can’t so don’t say it as fact.

Literally any player that posts an ad on Instagram. Every team has several.
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Hopefully the NCAA grows some balls and pushes gov’t


Your hope is that the NCAA bullies the government? Good luck with that.
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The incentive portion yes. Are you a mockingbird?


You said the contracts should be equivalent and now you are saying they should only be partially similar, when in reality what you are describing is not similar to a NFL players or coaches contract at all.
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Money will make you lazy and that’s the issue. Like 70-80% of pro athletes are bankrupt within 3 years of retirement. Why is that?

So what? It's not anyone's job to limit people's incomes because they might get lazy or spend their money improperly.
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So now you don’t want to answer for the byproduct of this bs?

You are talking about how people spend their money. Whether or not people waste their money or put it in a savings account is none of my business.
Posted by BET
Member since Jul 2024
1390 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:27 pm to
Well then they should pay their way for everything out of their nil money. When they run out of money then what?

If everyone wants to treat it like work, we'll ok pay for your own:

Tuition
Transportation
Apartment
All their food they have to eat
Pay all you utilities etc
Books
Clothes
Travel expenses for away games
Shoes
Everything is on the player now right? Ok then.
Etc etc

Getting a free everything that i mentioned above is restitution enough(3 yrs almost 4/500k a player) for being able to play on a national stage preparing for the NFL. Nil is an excuse. If your attending school and playing for "your" school , you should not get paid. Jmo.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Factually incorrect

Feel free to point out what specifically you think is “factually incorrect.”
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:28 pm to
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Literally any player that posts an ad on Instagram. Every team has several.



Yea I figured you couldn’t name any

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when in reality what you are describing is not similar to a NFL players or coaches contract at all.


And how is that?

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So what? It's not anyone's job to limit people's incomes because they might get lazy or spend their money improperly.


Again it’s about the integrity of the sport for the fans. When bodies start disappearing from games it will matter. It’s your job to pick up the pieces if that’s what you wanted. Are you serious? The game is changing for the worst. This is easy to see

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You are talking about how people spend their money. Whether or not people waste their money or put it in a savings account is none of my business.



You couldn’t have been born this stupid could ya? The reason college sports is so fun to watch is because of the raw competitiveness and passion and this really waters that down
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65844 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 7:39 pm to
Your theories on how much money football programs pull in. There’s an actual account you can find online but instead you used some kind of gorilla math to increase by 20x what it really is. Here are the actual numbers from last seasons top 25 programs.


LINK

LINK
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 7:43 pm
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