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re: Out of state tuition and room and board is about 50k per year
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:13 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:13 pm to TexasTiger08
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I think you’re overthinking the statement. Legally they are adults at 18. Think about how you were at 21. When I was in college, I still did lots of dumb shite. Hell, I did immature shite well into my 20’s.
I don’t disagree.
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If you want these guys to be treated as adults, fine. Let them pay health insurance premiums, file taxes on earnings, etc.
Many people that age do these things. Especially ones that don’t go to college or play sports. Do you not think that these guys athletes have to pay taxes?
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If you don’t want to treat them as adults, then maybe we need to rethink the piece of the pie they get.
What about MLB players that get drafted out of high school or NBA players that get drafted at 19? Do we treat them as adults or limit their earnings? Or does that not apply to them because they play baseball instead of football?
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:17 pm to stein69
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what regular student is on tv in front of millions of people and 90k+ where everyone watching is evaluating their performance.
I won’t say that’s not pressure, but it comes with the territory. That doesn’t make it a “job”. That alone doesn’t mean a $12 mil. QB is getting market value.
Real pressure is a single mom trying to get a degree. Real pressure is having a patient cut open on an operating table. Real pressure is working late night jobs to afford tuition. Real pressure is when your family is counting on you to be the first to graduate.
90,000 people criticizing you sucks, but fortunately the great system allows someone to transfer if they can’t take the heat.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:19 pm to luciouslou
For some, that value is secondary to what their main objective is and brings little value to the equation.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:22 pm to LSBoosie
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What about MLB players that get drafted out of high school or NBA players that get drafted at 19? Do we treat them as adults or limit their earnings? Or does that not apply to them because they play baseball instead of football?
Then take the NFL to court for not allowing kids straight out of HS. The game is much less physical than it used to be anyway.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:24 pm to Howyouluhdat
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You still can’t read.
I can. I literally quoted exactly what you said.
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They’re chasing pussy and living the college life. That’s why very few amount to anything at the next level but yea let’s throw a bunch of money at an 18 yr old and hope he gives a shite about his education, his teammates, or the school he’s playing for. You act like all these dudes were raised by Mother Teresa.
What does this have to do with anything? Do you think that because some athletes work hard and prioritize their sport and some don’t, that their earnings should be limited? I really just don’t know what point you are trying to make with this. We know, some kids in college have their shite together and some don’t. This isn’t new.
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They make more on ticket sales and media rights than contributors, but I misspoke, the university will be directly paying the players soon if not already so it doesn’t really matter. The point remains
I mean you were trying to relate Traction to the athletic department which just doesn’t make any sense.
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We should be able to agree that today’s NIL is going down a dangerous path and needs to be revised. Correct?
I mean I guess? I just don’t know that you can limit want someone can go out and earn from a third party. Again, you anyone has any suggestions on how to “fix” NIL I would love to hear them.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:25 pm to TexasTiger08
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Then take the NFL to court for not allowing kids straight out of HS. The game is much less physical than it used to be anyway.
Who do you want to take the NFL to court?
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:26 pm to mjax57
quote:In that case, neither is watching YouTube all day while a Honeywell HMI screen tells you if a valve is open or closed.
Playing football and Taking PE classes isn’t work.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:26 pm to stein69
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it is one of the many things these players are asked to do.
Awww poor players. That’s why they get free shite. Are we supposed to feel sorry for them?
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the player’s time is accounted for from at least 6am until 10 pm every Monday through Thursday.
They aren’t busting their arse from 6am to 10pm. There’s a lot of down time in there. Again that’s why they get a plethora of free shite unlike a regular student
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:31 pm to TexasTiger08
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Real pressure is a single mom trying to get a degree. Real pressure is having a patient cut open on an operating table. Real pressure is working late night jobs to afford tuition. Real pressure is when your family is counting on you to be the first to graduate.
This is all true, but I’m not sure what it has to do with anything. Not everyone’s life is created equal. Some people have a very tough life, some people are born into a much easier life. I’m not sure what a single mom trying to get a degree has to do with NIL though.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:33 pm to Howyouluhdat
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Awww poor players. That’s why they get free shite. Are we supposed to feel sorry for them?
We don’t feel bad for them. But we also aren’t whining about them making money, you are.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:34 pm to LSBoosie
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I’m not sure what a single mom trying to get a degree has to do with NIL though.
You don’t understand much in this thread. Not surprising. The other poster said student athletes have a lot of pressure on them somehow justifying being paid
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:35 pm to Lester Earl
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would you work for free if someone paid your lodging and health insurance?
so let me see if I got this right.
at 17/18 years old starting out in the world, I have a couple choices if I'm going to college.
A. I can pay for everything myself. Tuition, Books, Room and Board, Healthcare, Food, Academic tutoring, etc. I can work 2-3 jobs to help cover this expense, or take out student loans and saddle myself with a huge debt right out of the gate. While being a student, nobody knows who the hell I am and I have to start from the bottom of the corporate ladder upon graduation.
or
B. I can play football. Literally every single expense is paid for me. I'm on TV showing my skill set every single week so all potential future employers know exactly who I am, what I'm capable of, and what my future might hold. Upon graduation, I can immediately sign a contract for 3/4 of a million dollars (NFL rookie minimum). Or if I don't get a job playing football, the name I made for myself at least opens other doors in my state at a minimum or regionally or nationally. And I graduate with zero debt for my education.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:39 pm to drizztiger
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In that case, neither is watching YouTube all day while a Honeywell HMI screen tells you if a valve is open or closed.
Lol it’s hilarious. The “I won’t recognize being a professional athlete as a real job, but I will recognize being a receptionist at a dentist office as a real job” crowd is so funny.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:39 pm to LSBoosie
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Who do you want to take the NFL to court?
That would be up to a HS player that thinks he’s the shite.
Read about Spencer Haywood challenging the NBA age limit. He lost, but the NBA opened the door for hardship cases and eventually scouts were flooding HS gyms. Stern didn’t like that HS kids started seeing the NBA as their path to riches. For every Lebron, you had 10 guys like Ndudi Ebi.
So yeah…some kid should challenge the legality of the collective bargaining agreement establishing age limits if they want to fight the system.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:41 pm to LSBoosie
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This is all true, but I’m not sure what it has to do with anything.
I was responding to a poster who insinuated that these players faced more pressure than any other student.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:42 pm to Howyouluhdat
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You don’t understand much in this thread. Not surprising. The other poster said student athletes have a lot of pressure on them somehow justifying being paid
The other poster was responding to people that said regular students face the same pressures that athletes do. Some do, some don’t.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:43 pm to LSBoosie
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But we also aren’t whining about them making money, you are.
And rightfully so when they get plenty of free shite and way more than players did in the early 2000’s. It’s not like they aren’t spending more money on the players now as it is with all the locker room upgrades, nutrition center with a private chef, mental health counseling, an expanded weight room that provides direct visual connection to the indoor field house, and sports medicine and hydrotherapy areas for recovery but that’s not enough.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:44 pm to LSBoosie
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The other poster was responding to people that said regular students face the same pressures that athletes do. Some do, some don’t.
Right and he pointed out real world pressures
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:44 pm to TexasTiger08
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For years, we heard the complaints about these guys being modern day slaves. Guess what? They still are.
I don't think you understand the definition of slave.
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