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Our Tight End coach going to Old Dominion to be...Tight End coach?

Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:46 am
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
2903 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:46 am
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LSU graduate assistant and tight end coach John Decoster announced Thursday that he is headed to Old Dominion to be the Monarchs' tight end coach.


This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:51 am
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:47 am to
TD refers to him as a GA
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7346 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:47 am to
His official role was a GA, but he coached TE's. So doing full time work, getting GA pay.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:48 am to
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Our Tight End coach going to Old Dominion to be...Tight End coach?
You don't know what a GA is.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
2903 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:49 am to
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getting GA pay.


seems like recruiting the #1 TE in the country would help him to get a pay raise? I guess I don't know the full story here. Just seems odd.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25484 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:51 am to
He was a GA here and that is a full time position
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
The farther west the farther out
Member since May 2015
4874 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:51 am to
This is old news.

He was only a GA here.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
2903 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:52 am to
Ok I think the story threw me as they referred to him as GA and Tight End coach
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70380 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:54 am to
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seems like recruiting the #1 TE in the country would help him to get a pay raise?


It looks like it did.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10312 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:54 am to
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seems like recruiting the #1 TE in the country would help him to get a pay raise? I guess I don't know the full story here. Just seems odd.


Graduate assistants are not allowed to recruit.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66578 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:58 am to
Went from GA to paid position.

We don’t have any of those available on staff.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12903 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:04 am to
(to board) Wasn't his time limit as GA up also?
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
The farther west the farther out
Member since May 2015
4874 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:06 am to
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Ok I think the story threw me as they referred to him as GA and Tight End coach


He was pretty much the acting TE coach from what I've heard.

I don't fault him for going somewhere else for a full time gig.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70380 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:06 am to
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Wasn't his time limit as GA up also?


That's my understanding. You can't be a GA for more than 2 or 3 years or something.

I think GAs can be more hands on in practice than analysts, which is why he was able to serve as a position coach in his capacity. Where someone like Munoz was restricted from doing that.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66445 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:07 am to
You don’t know what a GA is. Stands for Graduate Assistant.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9175 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:08 am to
The Rant is officially back.

How long until the fire this coach and that coach starts?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24554 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:11 am to
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Graduate assistants are not allowed to recruit.


Pretty sure this is incorrect. A school can have around 30 designated recruiters. Some can only recruit on-campus and all recruiters have to be identified to the NCAA by the program.

What they are not allowed to do is get paid.

The compensation package for a graduate assistant coaching job varies. Average pay for a full-time, 20 hour per week, graduate assistant coaching job is $7500 for the academic year.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10312 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:16 am to
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Pretty sure this is incorrect. A school can have around 30 designated recruiters. Some can only recruit on-campus and all recruiters have to be identified to the NCAA by the program.


Good point. I know they are limited to I believe 10 of campus recruiter. It would be impossible to police on campus GA recruiting. However, it is unlikely a GA would have much influence on recruiting.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12903 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:21 am to
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That's my understanding. You can't be a GA for more than 2 or 3 years or something.
2 years 'normal', 3 years if:
- 3rd year is consecutive
- took 24 hrs of grad classes in the previous 2 years.

I thought, could be wrong, his 2 yrs was up without the hours taken so he's done here at LSU.
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I think GAs can be more hands on in practice than analysts, which is why he was able to serve as a position coach in his capacity. Where someone like Munoz was restricted from doing that.
correct can't 'coach' players. But that's with the antiquated definition of a 'coach'. They can't sit down with players and dissect film, literally in the same room. But then they can turn around and dissect the same film, add commentary, put in analysis, make a 'flyer' showing tendencies, and then upload all that to a players iPad for review.

The ironic thing is on an on-campus visit a recruit can talk and go over film directly with them. It's a great marketing ploy to show recruits 'behind the curtain' and promote a program, not just a coach.

ETA: and don't forget the somewhat antiquated definition of 'practice' is a set 20hrs a week divided up. So are you 'coaching' if not at 'practice'? Point being, there's loopholes.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 11:23 am
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