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re: Our Run Blocking...Is it that bad or was TCUs Dline that good?

Posted on 9/1/13 at 10:46 am to
Posted by tigerd60
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Jan 2013
159 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 10:46 am to
the commentators said it during the game,TCU has had the #1 D in recent years...so they are legit,best chance against a D like that is to spread them out,open up running lanes,don't let them stack the line on you...pretty simple.I do like what I saw last night,but still room for improvement on both sides of the ball.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85104 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 10:49 am to
OK big boy. Be that guy. But do yourself a favor, and read Speedy's thread, and consider the facts and weigh them against your own erroneous observations.
Then withdraw from this thread gracefully.
Or double down and confirm your irrational pessimism.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 10:55 am to
We had 200 yards rushing against a good defense without Jeremy Hill. We're fine.
Posted by slack691
metairie, la
Member since Jan 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:23 pm to
48 carries for 197 = 4.1 ydss. per carry. Take out Magee's 52 yard run and we have 47 carries for 145 yards = 3.1 yards per carry. Decent, but not too great. We can stop teams from loading up in the box by running out of the spread or, in the case of Magee's short TD run, splitting the linemen a little to open up a running lane. Hope Cameron/Les stop using the Jumbo Set so much. Please RUN OUT OF THE SPREAD, especially in the Red Zone.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
55365 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:24 pm to
we had 200 yards rushing. how is that bad?
Posted by slack691
metairie, la
Member since Jan 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:35 pm to
Said it was "decent" not bad. I just think we could run the ball better if we didn't use the Jumbo Set so much. It has gotten frustrating over the years to see Les rely so much on smashmouth football, which seems to me works best when you have a clear talent advantage. Nowadays, there is parity of talent so that the scheme is important. Oregon is the best example of this, always in the top 5 in the country over the last several years in RUSHING. Yes, they don't play in the SEC but last year they averaged almost 6 yards per carry. We averaged 4.2 yards per carry and 170 yard per game- 50th in the FBS. I just wish we could be in the top 25. Hope Cameron ditches the Jumbo Package, especially in the Red Zone.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12416 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Take out Magee's 52 yard run and we have 47 carries for 145 yards = 3.1 yards per carry.


But you can't take it out. It's flawed logic. Every now and then you hit a homerun. They count in your average.
Posted by slack691
metairie, la
Member since Jan 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:45 pm to
I understand what you are saying, but the fact remains that we only averaged 3.1 yards per carry in 47 rushing attempts, which does reflect that on a vast majority of our rushing plays (97%) we were pretty mediocre. It sure seemed that there were at least 12-15 rushing plays in which we gained 2 yard or less. I never got the sense that we could rely on the running game for a sure 3 or 4 yard gain. It seems that Cameron realized this and threw the ball on many 3rd and shorts.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
9116 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:45 pm to
When we have the ball first and goal from inside the 5 it should be lights out and pound and ground into the endzone and we were in the redzone 2 times early and came a way with 6 points. Half should have been 28-10 if our redzone offense produced the way it should in that phase of the game.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61656 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:47 pm to
For some people, there is middle ground between absolutely dominant, and "getting mauled".

Simple minded people have trouble finding a reasonable middle ground.
Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Just rewatching the game and making the observation that their dlineman dominated our oline when we ran. I'm glad that late in the game we wore on them
you keep saying that...lsu didn't get 200 yds in the fourth qtr
Posted by slack691
metairie, la
Member since Jan 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:51 pm to
By the way, Magee's long TD run was, I believe, the only running play that was not between the tackles, or at least was the only one that could be considered a stretch play. What ever happened to the toss sweep? It seems that few teams run that these days.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

the commentators said it during the game,TCU has had the #1 D in recent years...so they are legit


Right, there were just too many delusional fricks posting lately who didn't realize TCU would have a good team this year.
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:20 pm to
I realize TCU had a good team this year, and a great defense to boot. Apparently making an observation that our oline met their match in the first half when we tried to run the ball is equivalent to heresy and i'm a hater, etc.

Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22037 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:24 pm to
i'm watching the game now (again), it's the first series in the game, and tcu has 8 in the box, on just about every play. I guess the thought mett wouldn't be able to beat them with his arm
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:28 pm to
From the get go, Mett was making some amazing throws


A couple were right on the money and our WR's dropped them...Dural
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:31 pm to
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I understand what you are saying, but the fact remains that we only averaged 3.1 yards per carry in 47 rushing attempts


If you are going to take out our long run then take out the sacks and knees. That would give us 163 yards on 43 carries (3.88 pc). Then factor in that our FBs had 4 carries for 3 yards. Suddenly we're up to 4.1 ypc. Not bad.
Posted by slack691
metairie, la
Member since Jan 2013
16 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 9:38 pm to
Watching the replay-I must have missed it last nite, but on Magee's second td from TCU's 4 yard line, Cameron had them in a 3 WR set, i.e he spread them out. Result: easy TD right up the gut. I have been waiting for LSU to use this approach rather than the "bunch 'em up" Jumbo Set that Miles has been so attached to. I am encouraged by this and can only pray that Cameron keeps doing it. GO TIGERS.
Posted by Le_Marteau
Erath
Member since Jun 2013
79 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 9:51 pm to
I was worried at first with the run, run, pass philosophy, but Coach Cam is a genius. He let them stack the box, which opened up the passing game, which eventually opened up the running game. There is a reason CLM hired him and he's getting payed all that money.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81712 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 10:21 pm to
Its like some people never heard of tcu before this year. Their defense has been this stingy for awhile
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