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re: OSU LHP Heimlich: “(his) explanation ... incomplete from legal standpoint”
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:25 pm to Jake88
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:25 pm to Jake88
So you didnt really correct anything accept potentially one point, you just took the time to try and poke holes 
Look, I think you are a good litmus test on why Lukes attorney told him to take the plea
There really is nothing he could have done to have you vote not guilty
Would you agree with that?
Look, I think you are a good litmus test on why Lukes attorney told him to take the plea
There really is nothing he could have done to have you vote not guilty
Would you agree with that?
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:28 pm to lsupride87
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have no clue he isnt a fricking psychiatrist
I'm talking as a cynical lawyer. Would he believe a criminal would open up about such a heinous act?
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:29 pm to LSUintheNW
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The guilty folks don't go around saying they did it. I would fully expect him to deny deny deny whether he did it or not.
And the judgmental go around accusing people without factional evidence.
I’ve been guilty of this many times.
*Not saying he’s innocent or guilty.
Look at those Duke lacrosse players, they ran around saying they were innocent, while the public destroyed them beyond repair. Later evidence showed they were innocent.
I would suggest finding factional evidence before convicting someone.
Any slightly intelligent person knows why he took a guilty plea.
I would bet my retirement the girl talks one day, when she’s older, and understands the situation in a mature manner.
Right now it’s hard to condem him with the evidence I’ve been able to read, so far.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:30 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:
And the judgmental go around accusing people without factional evidence.
We have a guilty plea, I'm good.
Whether it was the right thing or not, he plead guilty.
He wasn't facing 20 years.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:32 pm to LSUcajun77
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would bet my retirement the girl talks one day, when she’s older, and understands the situation in a mature manner.
I don't think she knows what really happened, at that age.
Her memory will just fade.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87
quote:No, I wouldn't agree with that at all.
Would you agree with that?
quote:What is there to correct when you've got nothing to point to his innocence? Nothing. I showed you how your fact was either wrong, or had no bearing on whether he did it.
So you didnt really correct anything accept potentially one point, you just took the time to try and poke holes
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:34 pm to LSUintheNW
If you’re good then what’s your argument?
Don’t you want the judicial system to work? Or you don’t really care, as long as someone pays the price whether they did it or not?
Don’t you want the judicial system to work? Or you don’t really care, as long as someone pays the price whether they did it or not?
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:34 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:Ahh, so I’m sure with OJs not guilty verdict then too?
We have a guilty plea, I'm good.
From a court of law yes it is over
Put from an opinion you acting like that is 100% ironclad is laughable
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:35 pm to MrWiseGuy
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“pulled down her underwear and with his hand he touched her private part… She said that she told him to stop, but he wouldn’t.” The girl also said that “Uncle Luke”… “touched her on both the inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom. She said that it hurt her… She said that the first time the respondent touched her she was four years old and that she was six years old the last time he did this.”
I just can't enjoy baseball with this hanging over the regional.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:35 pm to lsupride87
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We have a guilty plea, I'm good.
Ahh, so I’m sure with OJs not guilty verdict then too?
Apple's and oranges baw.
OJ was found innocent by a jury,
. Luke took a guilty plea.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:37 pm to LSUcajun77
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Or you don’t really care, as long as someone pays the price whether they did it or not?
Until he was outed he didn't pay a price. Big deal he saw a psychiatrist etc.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:37 pm to lsupride87
I have met kids who have lied about stuff but I've never heard a 4 or 6 year old lie about being molested. Not saying it cant/hasn't happened but that is some serious crap
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:38 pm to lsupride87
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Put from an opinion you acting like that is 100% ironclad is laughable
I remember how last year you had the biggest pitchfork on the MSB and NOW you're the voice of reason.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:40 pm to LSUintheNW
You sound like a lawyer. Are you one?
Because that would explain your opinion.
The judicial system fails people everyday. Innocent people rot in jail because of the egos of lawyers.
Not everyone that takes a plea is guilty or innocent.
It’s playing the game, which is the system. Which is disgusting that the law works that way.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Because that would explain your opinion.
The judicial system fails people everyday. Innocent people rot in jail because of the egos of lawyers.
Not everyone that takes a plea is guilty or innocent.
It’s playing the game, which is the system. Which is disgusting that the law works that way.
Guilty until proven innocent.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:40 pm to LSUintheNW
I have admitted how big my pitchfork was then
and I am embarrassed. I thought at the time he had admitted it outside of court and went through bullshite treatment and claimed he had changed
I fault myself ultimately but he original reports sure were lacking
and I am embarrassed. I thought at the time he had admitted it outside of court and went through bullshite treatment and claimed he had changed
I fault myself ultimately but he original reports sure were lacking
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
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fault myself ultimately but he original reports sure were lacking
And yet we really don't have much more to go on....
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:42 pm to LSUintheNW
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Big deal he saw a psychiatrist etc.
I never mentioned a psychiatrist in one of my post.
The big deal was the lack of evidence. And the only advice he got, which I thought was the best, was taking the plea before the 6yr old takes the stand in front of the jury.
The prosecutors would tear him apart, even if they knew he didn’t do it. They couldn’t care less.
End result : plea deal, stay out of prison.
I would of gone to jail over being labeled the way he has, just to add.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:43 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:
You sound like a lawyer. Are you one?
Uh....no.
quote:
The judicial system fails people everyday. Innocent people rot in jail because of the egos of lawyers.
Not everyone that takes a plea is guilty or innocent.
It’s playing the game, which is the system.
I understand that.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:46 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:
Big deal he saw a psychiatrist etc.
I never mentioned a psychiatrist in one of my post.
No but you mentioned a price to pay. Him seeing a psychiatrist was ultimately the big price he paid. Whooopee....
quote:
End result : plea deal, stay out of prison.
Except he wasnt facing prison or real time.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:55 pm to LSUintheNW
I said “as long as someone pays the price”
In reference to anyone being found guilty whether they’re innocent or not. It was in reply to your opinion. I was asking a question.
He was facing prison time had he lost the trial.
I mentioned earlier it’s odd he took a plea, instead of missing a year of baseball in prison. That’s what he’s been quoted saying.
But a day in jail as a suspected child molester isn’t fun. He chose to skip that and take the guilty label. That’s on him.
I just maintain there isn’t enough evidence to say whether he’s actually guilty or not. In the end he took a plea and maintained his innocence.
In reference to anyone being found guilty whether they’re innocent or not. It was in reply to your opinion. I was asking a question.
He was facing prison time had he lost the trial.
I mentioned earlier it’s odd he took a plea, instead of missing a year of baseball in prison. That’s what he’s been quoted saying.
But a day in jail as a suspected child molester isn’t fun. He chose to skip that and take the guilty label. That’s on him.
I just maintain there isn’t enough evidence to say whether he’s actually guilty or not. In the end he took a plea and maintained his innocence.
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