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re: Orgeron’s Coaching Record

Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21261 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:53 pm to
Stats, facts or opinions?
Yea it makes a debate or discussion a debate or discussion.
Otherwise you have someone to tell you to like someone because they said so.
That’s where my problem lies.

If you think that is all I post about, you’re cherry picking and you obviously didn’t research my history enough.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:57 pm to
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Stats, facts or opinions?
Yea it makes a debate or discussion a debate or discussion.
Otherwise you have someone to tell you to like someone because they said so.
That’s where my problem lies


My point is that even threads about players turn into threads about coaches just because frick O. It's dumb and makes the board suck.

quote:

If you think that is all I post about, you’re cherry picking and you obviously didn’t research my history enough.


I never said that. It's mostly justice, but you always back them regardless of the thread subject.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8995 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:58 pm to
Hes actually credited with 31-33. Got to count the 12-4 record as interim head coach. So if he goes 8-4 he will go above .500.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:59 pm to
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My point is that even threads about players turn into threads about coaches just because frick O. It's dumb and makes the board suck.


There's a thread on the recruiting board right now that has devolved into a pissing match between myself another poster because he just couldn't avoid bringing up "hating Orgeron" and "not real fans" in a thread that had nothing to do with either.

Don't blame this shite on just one side of the table.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 7:00 pm
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:01 pm to
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Don't blame this shite on just one side of the table.


Show me one time I said it was one sided. I'll wait.

I'm just tired of it happening in every God damn thread.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Show me one time I said it was one sided. I'll wait.


Show me one time that you've called out a poster that wasn't criticizing Orgeron. Oh wait, you've already admitted that an acceptable response is to tell someone to kill themselves, in your opinion.

So, never mind.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14410 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:03 pm to
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I don't believe the interim years should be reflected in a coach's overall record because the pressures of a full time head coach are much different.

An interim coach, in general, takes way more chances trying to get the job vs trying to keep the job. I think that was pretty clear to see with Orgeron the last 2 years.

I get that some people feel that way, but apparently the NCAA doesn't.

You could also state the case that a team that had their coach fired is also a team that has already mentally lost and/or may not be very talented so if the coach can step in and make them perform better than their predecessor it may actually be a more impressive achievement.

If you discount interim then you invite the winning with the other coach's players argument that some have given to Les' success which I also think is a bit ridiculous.

You can certainly say interim is different, but a win is a win regardless of how someone feels. Not taking a shot at you, I actually like your posts. Just adding a different perspective.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93673 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:05 pm to
It's pretty ridiculous. You would think people could have an adult conversation about sports of all things. Instead you have people that get all pissy and lash out when someone intelligently challenged their opinions.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:05 pm to
Coach O was awful at Ole Miss. I was against his hiring. He has had a couple of monumental screw ups at LSU like Troy and miss st, and he deserved criticism for those things. All that said though, he hasnt been bad with recruiting or coaching hires in my opinion. We had to address some holes more than we needed to win a recruiting title. And other than Ensminger, who is no where near as bad as he is being made out to be, the hires have been impressive. We could be pretty good this fall with a little luck.......and if the wheels do fall off it will probably lead to a chain reaction that is good for LSU long term. So all is not lost.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Show me one time that you've called out a poster that wasn't criticizing Orgeron. Oh wait, you've already admitted that an acceptable response is to tell someone to kill themselves, in your opinion.

So, never mind.


They're there. I went back 5 pages and got bored. I call out the vocal minority, which right now happens to be the sky screamers that are all about never O in every thread, regardless of content.

Also, kill yourself.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79129 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:11 pm to
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and if the wheels do fall off it will probably lead to a chain reaction that is good for LSU long term. So all is not lost.
I think LSU can be in good position if things do go south, but it has to be decisive about it and do it quick. no more of the 2015 indecisiveness to fire an underperforming head coachm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:11 pm to
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They're there. I went back 5 pages and got bored. I call out the vocal minority, which right now happens to be the sky screamers that are all about never O in every thread, regardless of content.

Also, kill yourself.


Because I've never complimented Orgeron right? Also, once again, classy post.

ETA: You've also got the "vocal minorities" mixed up. Just FYI.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 7:12 pm
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:12 pm to
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Because I've never complimented Orgeron right? Also, once again, classy post.


I have no idea.

Thanks.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:15 pm to
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I have no idea.

Thanks.


I'm just glad you've helped prove the point that it isn't the one's who question Orgeron that are the problem in this fanbase. We aren't the one's that are eating our own.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:19 pm to
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I'm just glad you've helped prove the point that it isn't the one's who question Orgeron that are the problem in this fanbase. We aren't the one's that are eating our own.


I have no idea what you're talking about at this point. Spin on though so you can feel better.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:19 pm to
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I have no idea what you're talking about at this point. Spin on though so you can feel better.


I'm sorry that you can't follow along with a simple dialogue. Carry on then.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:26 pm to
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I'm sorry that you can't follow along with a simple dialogue. Carry on then.


So you don't have a point and just want to shite on a thread? That's cool. At least you kept it to tRant this time.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:27 pm to
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So you don't have a point and just want to shite on a thread? That's cool. At least you kept it to tRant this time.


I've expressed my point quite clearly. You've just admitted that you can't follow it.
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
4319 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:28 pm to
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I've expressed my point quite clearly. You've just admitted that you can't follow it.


You get upset when people tell you to kill yourself is all I got out of this. Which is a weird subject to bring up by the way.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21261 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:29 pm to
Legit post.


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