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re: Orgeron just now: “I finally see the offense I want”
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:19 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:19 am to Tiger Ryno
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If they can't score at least 25 against bama I don't want to hear it.
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There is no reason we shouldn't score 3 tds
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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"Keep attacking their strengths" is a poor football philosophy.
He won a lot of games attacking their strengths.
If he had a better QB he'd still be here. Doesn't mean his philosphy was wrong.
And his "bad philosophy" was a lot more successful than the current coach's.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:21 am to Goldrush25
We won a lot of games because we’re much better than the other team and have an elite defense.
Wouldn’t we have won more if our offense was good too?
Wouldn’t we have won more if our offense was good too?
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:21 am to Goldrush25
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Doesn't mean his philosphy was wrong.
Well it got him a job at Kansas...
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:23 am to SammyTiger
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We won a lot of games because we’re much better than the other team and have an elite defense.
Wouldn’t we have won more if our offense was good too?
Like I said, a better QB would probably have been the difference.
That was the failure to me, inability to convert on passing downs. I don't think philosophy would've changed it with the QBs we had.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:25 am to Goldrush25
If you can’t plug and play QBs with moderate success, I think You have a fundamental issue in college.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:29 am to Shiftyplus1
O usually doesn’t bullshite on stuff like this like Miles did. I’ll put on my koolaid glasses and gladly jump on board 
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:30 am to Goldrush25
quote:The QBs we had were no accident
That was the failure to me, inability to convert on passing downs. I don't think philosophy would've changed it with the QBs we had.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:36 am to Goldrush25
quote:But, only once in LSU's last 10 seasons. Twice in Miles' last 10 seasons.
And his "bad philosophy" was a lot more successful than the current coach's.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:38 am to Goldrush25
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That was the failure to me, inability to convert on passing downs.
With the exception of one season, Miles teams were ball control, ground and pound since 2008. There are times it's a good philosophy but it's not conducive to being able to strike quickly when you need to, so it's a flawed approach.
The talent he recruited reflected his philosophy, not influenced it
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:44 am to 1999
Really I'll give O a little leash here. Maybe the offense will be better. Of course being ranked 60 NATIONALLY & BOTTOM HALF OF SEC there's plenty of room for improvement.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
Not bashing Les because I always thought he was a great leader, but he struggled against scrubs from time to time as well. I always took it as players not taking the other team serious. Example Mett’s jr yr vs Furman we stunk and I think we only scored 38.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:51 am to bondbyblood
Wasn’t Furman we dropped 670 and 7 TDS on them in 2013
I think You’re thinking Towson.
I think You’re thinking Towson.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:04 pm to 1999
Rohan knows more about the passing game than any of us. And Rohan has been to more of the '19 Spring practices than any of us. So I have no problem buying-in to the excitement Rohan, Orgeron, and Burrow have for this new offense.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:11 pm to bondbyblood
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Not bashing Les because I always thought he was a great leader, but he struggled against scrubs from time to time as well.
I never had an issue with it, it happens. These games are usually vanilla game plans with a lot of substitutions and ball control in the second half
Most coaches from the old school don't blow the hell out of rentawins.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most coaches from the old school don't blow the hell out of rentawins.
I don't think it was in Miles DNA to embarrass his opponents by running up the score. No matter who they were playing. Look at the 2011 Ole Miss game. Mett runs the ball down to the Ole Miss goal line and instead of punching the ball in, Miles decides to have Mett take a knee on 4 straight downs with 5 minutes left in the game.
I can guarantee you that coaches like Bobby Petrino, Kevin Sumlin, Chip Kelly and perhaps a few others would have scored if they had been in that situation.
That kind of stuff never seemed to be anything Miles was interested in.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I never had an issue with it, it happens. These games are usually vanilla game plans with a lot of substitutions and ball control in the second half
I don’t look at it like that. I think you run your offense, get sufficient leads and then let the backups get more experience running your offense. At some point you take your foot off the gas but it’s up to the other team to stop you.
Why play starters and risk injury if you’re going to sit on the score.
No. Too often we lacked fire and played down to lesser opponents and obviously that’s continued with Orgeron.
Develop a “give no quarter”, killer instinct. I don’t see other programs following the “don’t hurt their feelings” philosophy.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 2:19 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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And his "bad philosophy" was a lot more successful than the current coach's.
quote:Not sure what it is you're comparing, but if it's O's 2018 success, Miles had 3 losses or less in 8/11 seasons at LSU and no great feat.
But, only once in LSU's last 10 seasons. Twice in Miles' last 10 seasons.
Ed's best year only managed to equal Miles LSU average of 10.18 wins and 2.91 losses.
If it's purely offensive success you're comparing, then O has much work ahead to displace Miles in the record book also.
#1,2,3 in PPG
#1,2,4,5 Points/Season
#1,2,3,4 Offensive TDs/Season (rush & pass)
#1,4,5 YPG
Posted on 3/27/19 at 2:23 pm to 1999
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Orgeron just now: “I finally see the offense I want”
Color me skeptical.
Posted on 3/27/19 at 2:25 pm to Mayhawman
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If it's purely offensive success you're comparing, then O has much work ahead to displace Miles in the record book also.
#1,2,3 in PPG
#1,2,4,5 Points/Season
#1,2,3,4 Offensive TDs/Season (rush & pass)
#1,4,5 YPG
Prior to LM we had 11 game schedules and bowl games didn't count towards stats
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