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re: Oregon Child Melester
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:01 pm to StadiumDormRat'72
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:01 pm to StadiumDormRat'72
Where do you live? And yes it’s a huge problem on the west coast with large homeless crackheads wandering the streets. Most residents either ignore it and pretend it doesn’t exist or are actually honest and admit it’s a problem. I think I can already tell which one you are.
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:03 pm to BattinRouge11
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I am just earing about this pitcher for the Beavers that abused a 6 year old family member. I am not sure why but I am confused is to why he has not been socially and publically ostriched and placed in prison. Why is he allowed to play a game for this college team. Does anyone know if it was a boy or girl. Irregardless this is a stain on the game and I do not understand why the Oregen State System has allowed this to happen. A travesty and an outrage.
You need to be in the "concustion protecall" program.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:03 pm to GirthBrooks62
Dear Lord, please give these posters the strength to read all of the thread before posting.
At least 4 people have tried to point out this pitcher pleaded guilty to this in his mid-teens. It didn't happen last month. Did he do it? He claims he didn't but pleaded guilty to spare his family the trial(which would have been ugly given the child was his niece) But let's, for the sake of argument, say he did it.
Should he be allowed to stay in college now that Oregon State knows?(the college says it just learned last year) That's a conversation that should be had. But there are plenty of juvenile and adult offenders who serve their sentence and then go to college. I doubt he's the only person with a past sex crime enrolled in college in Oregon. Or any other state.
Should he be allowed to play college baseball? Have a scholarship? Be idolized by kids seeking autographs? That's a higher bar to clear.
At least 4 people have tried to point out this pitcher pleaded guilty to this in his mid-teens. It didn't happen last month. Did he do it? He claims he didn't but pleaded guilty to spare his family the trial(which would have been ugly given the child was his niece) But let's, for the sake of argument, say he did it.
Should he be allowed to stay in college now that Oregon State knows?(the college says it just learned last year) That's a conversation that should be had. But there are plenty of juvenile and adult offenders who serve their sentence and then go to college. I doubt he's the only person with a past sex crime enrolled in college in Oregon. Or any other state.
Should he be allowed to play college baseball? Have a scholarship? Be idolized by kids seeking autographs? That's a higher bar to clear.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:04 pm to GirthBrooks62
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am talking about this specific case. Why did he get let off
He didn’t get “let off” he plead guilty he had whatever punishment the court gave him, iirc it included counseling and I would assume probation at least.
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how did he not get expelled him the University.
It happened when he was 15, he can’t be expelled from from a University he was not attending at the time
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:06 pm to jbeard
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Should he be allowed to play college baseball? Have a scholarship? Be idolized by kids seeking autographs?
1. NO
2. NO
3. Disgusting. No.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:17 pm to jbeard
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Dear Lord, please give these posters the strength to read all of the thread before posting.
Yeah the lord doesn't even care to stop the stupids from posting non stop on this board.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:46 pm to notiger1997
A little due diligence would have helped on the Universities part. It is still pretty sad the indifference to this in this thread.
What matters whether he be in high school or not? He still knew it was wrong at that age. The school threw it under the rug as fast as they could because they have no moral compass.
What matters whether he be in high school or not? He still knew it was wrong at that age. The school threw it under the rug as fast as they could because they have no moral compass.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:04 pm to GirthBrooks62
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A little due diligence would have helped on the Universities part.
Records for minors are often sealed
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It is still pretty sad the indifference to this in this thread
No one is indifferent to the crime. What is sad and scary to me is the utter disregard so many have for our standard or jurisprudence. To wit...
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What matters whether he be in high school or not? He still knew it was wrong at that age
We do not treat minors the same as adults for lots of reasons.
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The school threw it under the rug as fast as they could because they have no moral compass.
They claim they didn’t know until last year and he did not play in the tournament last year, so they didn’t sweep anything under the rug, you are being extremely judgmental based on your political ideology.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
Had this been anywhere else including LSU I would expect the school to do the same which would be to not let him play on the team.
It’s that simple. For all the things that the NCAA and schools levy against players for today in terms of character issues and they are indifferent to molesting kids?
Oregon State says it’s all good we didn’t know about it. Whether they knew or not obviously doesn’t make a shite. They know now and still won’t do shite about it.
It’s that simple. For all the things that the NCAA and schools levy against players for today in terms of character issues and they are indifferent to molesting kids?
Oregon State says it’s all good we didn’t know about it. Whether they knew or not obviously doesn’t make a shite. They know now and still won’t do shite about it.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:16 pm to BattinRouge11
That picture says it all.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:21 pm to BattinRouge11
I worked for a company in Oregon where the guy running it was a total dick and ran the company into the ground with a horrendous business plan. About a year after I left, he was arrested for child molestation of his own daughter. Was convicted and served seven years in jail. Must be something in the water up there.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:39 pm to BattinRouge11
Maybe he’s tight with that conboy in the oval. He’s not in prison for all the women he molested.??
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:53 pm to GirthBrooks62
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Had this been anywhere else including LSU I would expect the school to do the same which would be to not let him play on the team.
That’s fine, whether he should be playing college baseball is a valid topic.
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For all the things that the NCAA and schools levy against players for today in terms of character issues and they are indifferent to molesting kids?
This is a straw man argument. As I said this happened before he was in college he also completed whatever punishment the courts in Washington (he’s from Washington and the incident took place there FYI). So it’s out of the NCAAs jurisdiction. The school of course could not let him play but letting him play doesn’t make them indifferent it means they think he’s completed his sentence and should get a second chance. You can disagree of course but that doesn’t make others indifferent.
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They know now and still won’t do shite about it.
They didn’t let him play last year, unlike you they know him and for all you know did do due diligence and decided he’s fulfilled his legal obligations
Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:44 pm to H-Town Tiger
This is just a bunch of bullshite lawyer speak. I don’t care what you think is valid or not. You aren’t the clearing house on what is legitimate.
If they checked this guy out and then decided that he should be allowed to stay on their team than Oregon State is garbage and stands for absolutely nothing.
Whether he has “fulfilled his legal obligations” does not make a shite with people who look at the basic facts of this situation.
He fingered his cousin and he plead guilty to it. His own family sued him for it. He was obviously a troubled kid. No person should be allowed on campus that has prayed on children. He was 15 years old. Yes, he knew better. There had to be a minimal standard applied to whether he deserves to play baseball and study there.
Oregon State either knew and did nothing when they admitted him or they knew when it eventually became public and they had no intentions of actually delivering the appropriate punishment for this crime. Either way, this university is fuking garbage and are a disgrace to higher education.
For whatever reason, Oregon State didn’t actually suspended him. He left the team to tend to family issues. He was never formally punished by the school. He entered a two years probation and sex offender counseling as apart of his guilty plea.
Oregon State just wanted this to fade away from the public eye for a year more than actually looking at the situation and saying hey this is wrong we didn’t know at the time. Let’s make this right this kid is not worthy of wearing the uniform.
They did absolutely nothing. The one year punishment doesn’t make sense. MLB teams won’t touch this guy. They have their limits why didn’t Oregon State?
If they checked this guy out and then decided that he should be allowed to stay on their team than Oregon State is garbage and stands for absolutely nothing.
Whether he has “fulfilled his legal obligations” does not make a shite with people who look at the basic facts of this situation.
He fingered his cousin and he plead guilty to it. His own family sued him for it. He was obviously a troubled kid. No person should be allowed on campus that has prayed on children. He was 15 years old. Yes, he knew better. There had to be a minimal standard applied to whether he deserves to play baseball and study there.
Oregon State either knew and did nothing when they admitted him or they knew when it eventually became public and they had no intentions of actually delivering the appropriate punishment for this crime. Either way, this university is fuking garbage and are a disgrace to higher education.
For whatever reason, Oregon State didn’t actually suspended him. He left the team to tend to family issues. He was never formally punished by the school. He entered a two years probation and sex offender counseling as apart of his guilty plea.
Oregon State just wanted this to fade away from the public eye for a year more than actually looking at the situation and saying hey this is wrong we didn’t know at the time. Let’s make this right this kid is not worthy of wearing the uniform.
They did absolutely nothing. The one year punishment doesn’t make sense. MLB teams won’t touch this guy. They have their limits why didn’t Oregon State?
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 10:54 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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Oregen
Eh, he talks like us
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:01 pm to GirthBrooks62
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No person should be allowed on campus that has prayed on children.
What about if you prayed WITH, or FOR children?
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:09 pm to Darius David
And likely will never see justice. I hear you man but you gotta let it go. Bill Clinton isn’t in office anymore
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:37 pm to BattinRouge11
My opinion may be unpopular but at a certain point you've got to let a human being be a human being again,especially in light of rehabilitation.
If you don't think such people should ever be allowed natural human desires like developing their talents, pursuing goals and progressing at something, then just have them killed. Get the death penalty instituted.
Otherwise if we let them live, and they don't re-violate, then let them live again.
If you don't think such people should ever be allowed natural human desires like developing their talents, pursuing goals and progressing at something, then just have them killed. Get the death penalty instituted.
Otherwise if we let them live, and they don't re-violate, then let them live again.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 5:43 am to PsychTiger
quote:No f'ing way. He presents himself as the stereotypical uneducated Luziana Lifer O Sycophant that's constantly drunk/high when posting on the Rant.
Please tell me you don’t have a degree from LSU.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 5:47 am to BRtoATL
Totally agree with that statement. He should be given a chance to finish his degree.
With that being said, if you read up on this story more, the more you realize he isn’t sorry one bit for what he did. The school defended him because he is a great baseball player for their school and they needed him to get this behind him quickly so he could get back to winning games for them. He did what was required of him by law.
He entered diversion program that required him to apologize formally to his cousin. Register as a sex offender for 5 years. Take sex offenders counseling. He was quoted as saying he only apologized bc they made him do it.
He did a 180 degrees from I made a huge mistake, I apologize and I need to voluntarily leave to handle this to I am innocent and I just did this to speed up the process and make everything go away.
The only reason this became a story was because he failed to update his address in the registry as sex offender and it flagged him and he got a citation for it which brought it to the public light. We would have never known anything otherwise.
The mother of the child he molested said she never wants him to play baseball again and thinks he did a horrendous act that there is no way that he can deny it FWIW. That’s his immediate family. His brother and his wife have since divorced over this shortly after.
This is a classic case of a school coddling and protecting this guy at all costs. They handled it like he had gotten hooked on drugs and he was a good kid trying to get better. The statement by school was we support him. He is great kid. He has a family issue he needs to take care of basically like his grandfather had passed away and he needed to take a personal leave. Very weird. Doesn’t fit the crime that he commited which is very heinous. About as bad as it gets other than murder or domestic violence.
You can’t get any more indifferent to the larger issue at hand which is how should the university have treated it. If this had been anyone else they would have kicked him to the curb but since he was star player the double standard applied.
With that being said, if you read up on this story more, the more you realize he isn’t sorry one bit for what he did. The school defended him because he is a great baseball player for their school and they needed him to get this behind him quickly so he could get back to winning games for them. He did what was required of him by law.
He entered diversion program that required him to apologize formally to his cousin. Register as a sex offender for 5 years. Take sex offenders counseling. He was quoted as saying he only apologized bc they made him do it.
He did a 180 degrees from I made a huge mistake, I apologize and I need to voluntarily leave to handle this to I am innocent and I just did this to speed up the process and make everything go away.
The only reason this became a story was because he failed to update his address in the registry as sex offender and it flagged him and he got a citation for it which brought it to the public light. We would have never known anything otherwise.
The mother of the child he molested said she never wants him to play baseball again and thinks he did a horrendous act that there is no way that he can deny it FWIW. That’s his immediate family. His brother and his wife have since divorced over this shortly after.
This is a classic case of a school coddling and protecting this guy at all costs. They handled it like he had gotten hooked on drugs and he was a good kid trying to get better. The statement by school was we support him. He is great kid. He has a family issue he needs to take care of basically like his grandfather had passed away and he needed to take a personal leave. Very weird. Doesn’t fit the crime that he commited which is very heinous. About as bad as it gets other than murder or domestic violence.
You can’t get any more indifferent to the larger issue at hand which is how should the university have treated it. If this had been anyone else they would have kicked him to the curb but since he was star player the double standard applied.
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