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re: Optimism Surrounding LSU Athletics
Posted on 8/18/23 at 6:50 am to Tigersonfire
Posted on 8/18/23 at 6:50 am to Tigersonfire
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Tigersonfire
Optimism Surrounding LSU Athletics
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I would prefer to say that instead of athletics, we are on a strong upward academic direction. much more important.
Where would the academic side be without the $100 million its receives from the athletic side for the last 20 years. You seem like a nerd so you should be able to see what kind of money that is. So please stop bashing sports because it isn’t your thing. It plays a major if not the most important part of LSU as a whole.
There are many positives for the university that no one sees or talks about (including the NE idiots who 'rate' schools by 'tiers' in the WSJ and other rankings and publications and web sites):
Yearly GPA increases for incoming freshman classes, with more selective recruiting.
LSU Press - one of top university publishing houses.
LSU Cox Academic Center for Student Athletes was featured in WSJ and NYT as a prototype.
LSU Vet School - one of best in the world.
LSU Pennington Biomedical Research Institute - world-renowned
Top 30 Research university ranking - Carnegie Institute
Top #1 school in the nation for Landscape Architecture
Top 5 in nation for: Coastal Studies, Hurricane Engineering, Entrepreneurial Studies
Highly ranked nationally for: Petroleum Engineering, Mass Communication, Music & Dramatic Arts, Design, Architecture, Agribusiness, all Engineering curricula, Geophysics, etc.
New NOLA LSU Medical Center
Very good Law, Medicine, and Masters and MBA programs.
One of the 25 most beautiful campuses in America - including the priceless LSU Oaks, and the soon-to-be newly designed LSU Lakes.
TGBFTL - easily one of the Top Ten college marching bands
Countless individual accolades for LSU professors and their published pieces, innovations and discoveries, chairs of organizations, authored books, awards, etc.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 7:02 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:19 am to Gaston
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IDK how Baton Rouge does it. As a dad of a Jr. with SEC offers I just don’t see what that ‘whole package’ is for LSU. I guess LSU is enough. I went there for 8 years.
We toured the town and campuses of 5 SEC schools this summer and damn, some of them are nicer than I gave credit.
I mean LSU itself and directly surrounding campus is nice and there are plenty of nice areas in BR but i get your point.
average athlete...prolly not bad to them...avg student nto from LA...it sucks somewhat.
Tate has done a good job on academic side. needs to continue to invest and really get engineering and 2-3 other "schools" up in the rankings big time and needs to really continue the capital campaign.
a big football season would go a long long ways to securing funding on the academic side though for sure.
people need to understand that before saban got to bama...it was in much worse shape than LSU. all those new buildings and the huge enrollment increase comes from the Football success and taking advantage of it to recruit the shite out of out of state students
LSU needs to do the same. Next 5-6 years are crucial with the coaches we have to take advantage of it. LSU has made huge strides in last 2 decades...on campus and surrounding the campus...just we have a chance to change that much in the next 5 years if the economy holds up. Big IF.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:00 am to lsu777
LSU football is strange in the sense that the Ops (training) building, the football administration building, the academic (and I assume athletic dining hall) facility, and stadium are so damn far apart.
Football players usually DGAF about the academic side of the university, and on recruiting visits they don’t even talk about it. I specifically ask, what are the ACT requirements for admission. At a school where the average incoming freshman average is 34…they say you’re required to ‘have a score’. Football average is ‘around 20’. I’m not even sure how football players pass classes immersed in that kind of student body.
A place where my son is offered boasts 100% graduation rate for football players who exhaust their eligibility. Not even sure how that’s possible.
ETA: Baseball players probably care a helluva lot more about the academic numbers.
Football players usually DGAF about the academic side of the university, and on recruiting visits they don’t even talk about it. I specifically ask, what are the ACT requirements for admission. At a school where the average incoming freshman average is 34…they say you’re required to ‘have a score’. Football average is ‘around 20’. I’m not even sure how football players pass classes immersed in that kind of student body.
A place where my son is offered boasts 100% graduation rate for football players who exhaust their eligibility. Not even sure how that’s possible.
ETA: Baseball players probably care a helluva lot more about the academic numbers.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 9:03 am
Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:12 am to Gaston
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Football players usually DGAF about the academic side of the university, and on recruiting visits they don’t even talk about it. I specifically ask, what are the ACT requirements for admission. At a school where the average incoming freshman average is 34…they say you’re required to ‘have a score’. Football average is ‘around 20’. I’m not even sure how football players pass classes immersed in that kind of student body.
avg score for lsu is not a 34 and the NCAA removed the requirement starting for this season for standardized test. Thats why they say that
and football players care more about getting the degree period than specifically what degree and they also really only care about where the academic center for athletes are. they also have mopeds and golf carts to get to and from the football center.
they live near the academic side, have access to the dining hall there if they would like, have the cox center for academics for athletes near there, stadium is near there
just football ops and practice fields is far. everything else is relatively close for a campus the size of LSU.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:36 am to TheWalrus
quote:As is TGBFTL program.
Just sucks that men’s basketball is back in the Stone Age.
Kelvin Jones resigns over the Summer (a la Linda Moorhouse) and there isn't enough time to interview anybody else, so we get another "Promote the Assistant" deal that gave us Roy King, Dennis Ilinas and Kelvin Jones.
One season in 2023 with Assistant DOB Simon Holoweiko getting a chance to put an entertaining product on the field.
I know that TBA's and others have bombarded DOB Talley with e-mails demanding that he conduct a "National Search a la Football" after this season is over and there has been some assurance that he will do that.
There's usually an "Adjustment Period" when a new Band Director comes in, but I've heard good things about Holoweiko from other TBA's.
There's nothing to do now but sit back, go the games and see what Tiger Band looks like at Pre-Game and Half-time.........
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:40 am to TheWalrus
Give it time like Novocain
Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:47 am to Tiger328
That's great man!
And by the way, who the hell downvotes this?
And by the way, who the hell downvotes this?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:03 am to timlan2057
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Unfortunately for the Will Wade Fan Boys, that’s not how NIL works. If HE would have been paying players it would have still been a violation (especially if he was still stupid enough to do it out of a personal checking account).
Well, it was never proven he paid any player(s) out of his personal checking account, so continuing to bring it up is irrelevant.
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Yep. Given Will Wade’s stupidity and the recent NC’s along with football’s upward trajectory, Scott Woodward can take as long as he needs and wants to fix men’s basketball, for all I care.
If you are not a basketball fan, that's fine. But having this mindset is dumb. Basketball should be (and maybe still is) the second highest revenue generating sport on campus. The one that produces the second highest profit behind football. LSU is fortunate that baseball produces a small profit, but that is not the norm. Point being, having a struggling men's basketball program is leaving a lot of meat on the financial bone. These big TV contracts only worry about two sports: Football and men's basketball. Everything else is just a pile of irrelevant activities for the TV networks...though some are slightly less irrelevant such as WBB and baseball. A good men's basketball program helps ALL athletic programs at the school.
No one is expecting McMahon to compete for a national championship this year, or really in the foreseeable future. But following up finishing dead last in the league with the (tied) worst conference record in school history with a mediocre year should cause the AD to seriously assess where the program is going. Because there are so few players on the team basketball is the easiest of all sports to turnaround/rebuild in the freedom of transfer age. While it is an extreme example, all one has to do is look at the other basketball occupant of the PMAC to see how quickly it can happen. People need to get out of the antiquated mindset of "slow rebuilds".
FWIW, in speaking with a member of the basketball staff recently they are optimistic things will be much better this season. Then again, every coach feels that way in the offseason. But I think there may have been some cohesion issues in the locker-room last year. That wasn't the ONLY thing that led to the terrible results (McMahon seemed very overwhelmed by the step up in competition), but it didn't help. This year they are more confident they have the "bodies" to better compete. Of course, one of those "bodies" is Jalen Cook who is a BIG part of the plan this year. Whether he is actually eligible will be something to monitor.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:19 am to unctiger4
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For a place like LSU, that starts with branding from athletics. The benefits of that can help improve academics. Look at what Bama has been able to do.
Agreed. Bama of all places has a first class academics side now thanks to success of athletics. LSU has fallen even further behind when it comes to this.
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