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re: Opinion on Coach O

Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:03 am to
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I literally said it's no worse than any other coach.



I don't understand why it was ever mentioned.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290780 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:04 am to
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Those folks probably have no idea that Orgeron had been the coach at Ole Miss a decade ago or how that turned out. Or that he was at USC. Or that after not being hired there he simply went home and pouted while not getting a sniff at another HC gig anywhere in the country at any level. They just know him as the Cajun guy now running the program, and that's good enough for them, cher!


In 2019, why is this relevant to anyone?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:05 am to
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I don't understand why it was ever mentioned.


Yet you demanded examples and when people gave instances of it you said they were "grasping at straws".

Orgeron has thrown players under the bus. It's not egregious, but he should probably refrain from doing it in post game pressers like he has in the past.

Really not a complicated line of thought.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108517 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:06 am to
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I have no problem with a coach calling it like it is. The oline was terrible.

So what's the issue then with him calling out players??
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48231 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:07 am to
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after a projected 6-6 seasons and we go 10-3 when we easily could have gone 12-1? you dont want to let him do his thing? 


we were projected 7-6 because O just had the 2nd most nfl draft picks in cfb and lost 4 games. they didnt know Miami and Auburn would suck.


your deity is 2-5 in 2017 & 2018 against p5 teams that were good enough to not finish with 5 or more losses.

if losing 3 games gets you a 5 year pass then we shouldve just kept miles
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108517 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:07 am to
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I don't understand why it was ever mentioned.

quote:

O has thrown numerous players under the bus before. what exactly are you trying to say? 

Posted by p&g  on 7/30/19 at 8:46 am to Rickdaddy4188

No he hasn’t. 
Quit lying.


So examples were cited.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48231 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:09 am to
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after a projected 6-6 seasons and we go 10-3 when we easily could have gone 12-1? you dont want to let him do his thing? 


we were projected 7-6 because O just had the 2nd most nfl draft picks in cfb and lost 4 games. they didnt know Miami and Auburn would suck.


your deity is 2-5 in 2017 & 2018 against p5 teams that were good enough to not finish with 5 or more losses.

if losing 3 games gets you a 5 year pass then we shouldve just kept miles
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48231 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:11 am to
exactly.


that's the only reason it was brought up. an orgeron cult member said he hasnt done it and to quit lying.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48231 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:15 am to
I've never seen a HC with so little accomplishments have such a dedicated following. there are numerous posters in this thread that put O above reproach.its as if losing 3 and 4 games a year is something that should be celebrated and touted. some of these same posters shite all over and labeled the last coach an underachiever for these same win loss numbers.
some have legit insinuated that NFL draft picks arent indicative of talent in cfb.
they are perfectly fine with O never producing a competent offense yet couldnt stand Miles' offenses when 2 of his last 3 full seasons had more productive offenses than anything O has put out.

it's the epitome of hypocrisy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:16 am to
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roger has proven time and time again that he gets his sense of self worth from this place.


Says the guy who pretends to have a physics degree from Duke, threatens to fight people all the time, and goes ballistic when anyone thinks he's a fatso.

You're the king of ad hominem. When you lose an argument, it gets personal

No one is as insecure here as you.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:18 am to
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In 2019, why is this relevant to anyone?


Relevant as a fan? Because it would be a good thing to know something about the guys running the program you say you follow. Same as it would be that BAMA fans know that before Saban was there, he was at Miami, and before that LSU, and before that Michigan St, etc.

Why would knowing that be bad?

As for relevant in terms of how LSU plays, it may or may not be...but knowing a person's past actions can lead to seeing patterns in their present ones. It's not the only indicator, but there's a reason people ask for a resume and references before they hire someone. If a person's past was always irrelevant, then why bother to hold anyone accountable for their past actions...ever?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48231 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:20 am to
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Says the guy who pretends to have a physics degree from Duke, threatens to fight people all the time, and goes ballistic when anyone thinks he's a fatso. 



further proof he gets his sense of self worth from here.
he thinks people try to impress people on an anonymous sports message board where no one actually knows you.

its pathetic
quote:

You're the king of ad hominem. When you lose an argument, it gets personal 


have you ever lost an argument on here roger?

have you ever been caught lying roger?

did you claim troy was more talented than lsu so you could blame the troy loss on the talent Miles left?

quote:

No one is as insecure here as you.



says the guy that publicly stated that he could be as accurate as greg Maddux if wanted to.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:21 am to
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Yet you demanded examples


I actually posed my question to Ricky in a nice manner. I said I don't know if it's right or wrong but can you provide me with some examples...i genuinely wanted to know since I didn't remember any. You came in and acted like an arse and here we are.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:25 am to
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As for being angry...I'm no more angry at you than I hate Ed Oregon


Symantics. You've said you dislike the guy on a personal level and have never liked him. Your beef is some phsychological barrier you can't overcome.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:26 am to
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As for relevant in terms of how LSU plays, it may or may not be..


Cool, the seasons 30 days away, you're stuck in the past
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:27 am to
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I actually posed my question to Ricky in a nice manner. I said I don't know if it's right or wrong but can you provide me with some examples...i genuinely wanted to know since I didn't remember any. You came in and acted like an arse and here we are.


I came in like an arse after you accused people of "grasping at straws" with regards to something that was factually correct.

Once again, good job Trout.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 10:30 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:28 am to
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You came in and acted like an arse and here we are.


He's a drive by poster
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:31 am to
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In 2019, why is this relevant to anyone?



It's only relevant if the coach in question makes some of the same mistakes he was making then.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:33 am to
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He's a drive by poster


I drive by and drop facts and links. Sorry you boys don't like it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:33 am to
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It's only relevant if the coach in question makes some of the same mistakes he was making then.


That would be a fantastic time to actually bring it up.
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