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re: Opinion on Coach O
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
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O has thrown numerous players under the bus
not saying you're right or wrong but can you provide some examples?
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:32 am to mhc4tigers
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The influence of Joe Brady will build over the next three to five years
How so?
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:32 am to GeauxTigerTM
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locals who don't really follow the program but somehow think highly of him with no context.
This is a good point that reminded me of something I didn’t address in my earlier response to your post:
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The odd thing is that all it took for most LSU fans to forget what they'd thought about the guy was for him to stretch on a purple LSU polo and say "Geaux Tigers." Which means they never disliked him back then for any real reason, or they are as flighty as 12 year old school girls.
This is my biggest problem as well. And I’d also add in the option that they are simply uninformed on his previous history or willfully try to deny it.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:33 am to theunknownknight
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THIS IS THE YEAR again for the 12th straight year
This year sets up uniquely with very good veterans in key positions and dynamic young playmakers at the others. If Joe Brady is as good as advertised and he and Ensminger are allowed to do what they want to do, there's no reason there should be a limit on what this team can do. This year sets up to have a chance to be something very special.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:39 am to Topwater Trout
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not saying you're right or wrong but can you provide some examples?
Brossette after Troy.
"We don't have a kicker."
Said something to the same effect about the defensive line after Bama last season.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 9:40 am
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:41 am to Goldrush25
Don’t forget Giles
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:42 am to Goldrush25
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Brossette after Troy.
"We don't have a kicker."
Said something to the same effect about the defensive line after Bama last season.
what was his comment after Troy about Brossette?
Comment about dline after bama?
Yall seem to be grasping at straws
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:44 am to TigerLunatik
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The point is discuss things with people, especially those that you may disagree with. Who cares about "winning" an internet argument on an anonymous sports message board? The best thing about discussing things here is learning stuff you wouldn't otherwise have thought of.
Honestly, it was always about camaraderie. Even within Louisiana, if you're THAT LSU fan, it's not super often that you run into another of your kind. Someone that follows the program so closely. Most fans cheer for laundry, after all. They don't know players beyond the QB and a RB or some star defensive players they hear others talking about. Find a group, and a large group of fans who follow it like you do was such a great thing to find back then.
And...it was also fun to argue and fight with other fans! Why lie? But it was mostly good natured. After all, they are simply their program's version of us...a devout follower. Getting to argue about who is better is fun. And yeah...learning some of the things about their program was great...stuff you'd otherwise never learn without forums like this.
But, as soon as the conversation gets to a point where you need to lie about what a person's said in order to win any argument...be it sports, religion, politics, whatever...you've admitted you know you need to cheat in order to compete with that person. Like I said, there's part of that which is flattering...but if there's no consequence for cheating, then there's no disincentive for doing it. And if everyone here decided today so simply just make up points that pother posters supposedly said, it would be one giant cluster frick that would eventually just stop...because it would be like shouting into a toilet. I'm genuinely confused as to why anyone would want to take part in that from either side, or why the board owners and admins would be interested in having things devolve into that.
Again...this is not about differing opinions. I love that! The more the merrier. the crazier and more out there the better as far as I'm concerned in terms of conversation. It's about tactics...general rules of conversation that ought to be followed and enforced to help make things run more smoothly. If it can be shown that a poster has a history of lying about another poster's position, then why is that poster allowed to continue in the debate? Isn't that person derailing the conversation?
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I have the utmost respect for your view of the reasoning for posting here.
I've always enjoyed it...too much so. I wished I liked it less. But this kind of thing is starting to put strain on that. The things which I enjoy about this place are becoming less and less easy to find as posters are allowed to run wild and ignored basic conversation rules... I can't imagine I'm the only one turned off by this. 
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:46 am to Topwater Trout
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what was his comment after Troy about Brossette?
"Ed Orgeron on LSU's fumbled first play: 'I wanted Darrel to get the ball"
LINK
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Comment about dline after bama?
"Misery Index Week 10: Ed Orgeron throws players under bus, takes big risk after LSU loss"
LINK
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Yall seem to be grasping at straws
Took me 2 minutes to find both sources. As usual, the only person grasping at straws is you.
ETA: This doesn't even include the "We don't have any kickers" comment from 2017. It's not any worse than any other coach, but Orgeron has absolutely thrown players under the bus before.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 9:51 am
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:52 am to RB10
I still think saying he threw guys under the bus is a stretch
I didn't make the comment. I asked Ricky for the examples...as usual you are a whiny little bitch especially if you are crying over those comments
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ook me 2 minutes to find both sources.
I didn't make the comment. I asked Ricky for the examples...as usual you are a whiny little bitch especially if you are crying over those comments
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:53 am to RB10
He also said that the Offensive Line needs to be better and said that Cam whatshisname should be at LSU. No one is grasping at straws. He calls players out in the media and I honestly don't really have a problem with it, same as Mainieri. If a kid chooses to play big time college sports at a place like LSU, they need to be prepared to be accountable for their play.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:54 am to Topwater Trout
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I still think saying he threw guys under the bus is a stretch
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I didn't make the comment. I asked Ricky for the examples...as usual you are a whiny little bitch especially if you are crying over those comments
So you didn't wait for him to provide the examples, or bother looking yourself, before saying he was grasping at straws?
Good job Trout.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:55 am to RB10
The good thing is that LSU now has an AD who won’t stand for student athletes being singled out and thrown under the bus to avoid coaches facing blame for their actions.
This post was edited on 7/30/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:57 am to Tiger Voodoo
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This is my biggest problem as well. And I’d also add in the option that they are simply uninformed on his previous history or willfully try to deny it.
I think this is two different groups.
You obviously have some LSU fans (fans of any program or franchise has these...it's not exclusive to LSU) who know next to nothing about the program they follow. They're cheering for laundry. They rarely know players' names, only know the head coach barely, etc. How often will you be in Tiger Stadium and someone will make a play and either a fan will call out the name of a guy that hasn't been here in three years, or just go "Who is that?" when you know without even thinking?
Those folks probably have no idea that Orgeron had been the coach at Ole Miss a decade ago or how that turned out. Or that he was at USC. Or that after not being hired there he simply went home and pouted while not getting a sniff at another HC gig anywhere in the country at any level. They just know him as the Cajun guy now running the program, and that's good enough for them, cher!
Those that DO follow the program though...they're the ones that are the bigger problem, because they likely know better. Like me, they disliked him when he was at Ole Miss...and would have been glad to tell you all the things that felt he lacked as both a coach and man. Same when he was at SC, or TENN. The issue I have is that they just dropped all of those concerns when he suited up at LSU. Again...is it just laundry? Was it just tribal for disliking him when he was elsewhere?
But...as I've said a ton...my disliking him has no bearing on whether or not I want LSU to succeed. I want LSU to succeed independently of who the coach is. I don't talk in terms of Orgeron succeeding or failing. His success is secondary to LSU's and is a product of it. If LSU succeeds and that means Ed Orgeron is seen as a great coach...HOORAY! If it turns out that he starts winning titles here, I'll be the first to come run here and say I was wrong about him and that it turns out here really was capable of the job at hand...and I'd be ecstatic to do so because it would mean LSU had won titles!
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:58 am to TigerLunatik
That’s great, but you can only draw from that well so many times. IMO, he’s done with the it’s the players fault excuse.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:58 am to Lester Earl
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least once a week you challenge someone to a fight based on something they said on a message board. If anyone lives & breathes this, it’s you.
link.
you should be able to easily link it since I do it once a week.
just another retarded post.
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Outside of your buddy in banland, madking aka bagel guy, there hasn’t been anyone as insecure as you that posts on tigerdroppings in the 20 years I’ve posted here
pussy boys like you hate what they cant conquer.
it's just the bitch in you.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 9:59 am to RB10
if you have a problem with those examples of throwing players under the bus you must have had serious issues with Miles?
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:00 am to Topwater Trout
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if you have a problem with those examples of throwing players under the bus you must have had serious issues with Miles?
Can you read? I literally said it's no worse than any other coach.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:00 am to tcollinsballins1
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What we gonna drop and dump a coach every 3 years before he can get his culture set in and his classes come through. you dumb little kid.
3?
you said 5 more dumbass. that's 7
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:02 am to TigerLunatik
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He also said that the Offensive Line needs to be better
I have no problem with a coach calling it like it is. The oline was terrible.
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