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re: Opinion on Coach O

Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:03 pm to
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And you didn't answer my question. Do you believe that ALL weight rooms on the LSU campus should be locked up.. and have access by appointment only?



Why is the HC allowing his team to be run in such a way?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:05 pm to
The sad thing is Buckeye doesn’t realize they lock up facilities related to the program for security purposes. They don’t want people like him with unfettered access to the players.

I can see the headline now:

Man, 57, found in LSU weight room closet muttering jug machines
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:06 pm to
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that ALL weight rooms on the LSU campus should be locked up.. and have access by appointment only? Why is the HC allowing his team to be run in such a way?


I’ve avoided responding to BJ here, but you make a great point.

If limited access to facilities is as big a deal as he claims and is holding the offense back, then the blame for that falls squarely on O and Ensminger.

Personally I’m not convinced it’s that big of a deal.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298473 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:07 pm to
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then the blame for that falls squarely on O and Ensminger.


That's clearly the important part.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:09 pm to
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That's clearly the important part.


No, it’s not. I’m only pointing out the hypocrisy of this guy going ballistic about access, but blaming anyone but those who can actually change it.

As I stated in my edit, I’m not convinced it’s that big a deal.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:10 pm to
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What you're doing is setting the plate to criticize a two loss team


If that's what he's doing, he's only holding this staff to the same standard as most folks on here held the last staff to.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:11 pm to
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If limited access to facilities is as big a deal as he claims and is holding the offense back, then the blame for that falls squarely on O and Ensminger.
Yes. And in the offseason, squarely on Moffitt. And in-season, Brady is the WR coach, he is also responsible.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Every Alabama game. Playing not to get blown out. It’s almost like LSU is the only team that doesn’t bring their A game when playing them. It’s pathetic and must change.



quote:

The Florida games: red zone offensive play calling got super conservative.



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MSU 2017. I’ve never seen a team quit like that. Thankfully that appears to have been addressed.



how are any of these in game coaching problems? Game plan and being conservative offensively isn't in game issues. Playing bad isn't in game those are all preparation. Running on 3rd down against A&M when you're defense has dominated them is not a bad in game decision. Many coaches would have done that instead of risking a turnover at the 40 yd line.

I still would like some examples of in game coaching problems. Anyone can feel free to answer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298473 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:12 pm to
Well, when we are seriously trying to assign blame on hypotheticals, I think the shark has been jumped.

The season starts in a month, and we have a thread where people are jockeying n position to get their shots in on a staff based on things that migh not even exist
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108517 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:16 pm to
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And you didn't answer my question. Do you believe that ALL weight rooms on the LSU campus should be locked up.. and have access by appointment only?

Link to that being the case.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:16 pm to
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The season starts in a month, and we have a thread where people are jockeying n position to get their shots in on a staff based on things that migh not even exist


How is that any different from every other offseason? It happens every year, and it happened with the last HC too. People always set themselves up to excuse losses that haven’t happened yet, and other people always set in-stone expectations for the team before a game is played.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Well, when we are seriously trying to assign blame on hypotheticals
No, we don't currently have solid published verification. But we do have the published reports that Beckham and Landry had to break in to the equipment room to get reps (despite a couple posters trying to discredit Beckham and Landry's account with nothing to back the posters up)
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298473 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Yes. And in the offseason, squarely on Moffitt. And in-season, Brady is the WR coach, he is also responsible.



What are the limits on facilities? I believe they're available most of the time during specific hours.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Link to that being the case.
That is NOT the case. My question is if you believe that SHOULD be the case.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:20 pm to
WRs should be able to use the Jugs Machine 24/7 without any kind of restriction.

Locking the doors to a facility containing millions in football equipment and office supplies is not acceptable.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:21 pm to
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despite a couple posters trying to discredit Beckham and Landry's account with nothing to back the posters up


They didn’t say that.

Coach Henry did. And it felt like an off handed remark.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298473 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:21 pm to
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But we do have the published reports that Beckham and Landry had to break in to the equipment room to get reps (


At what hours?

The facilities are usually available during the day.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79401 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:23 pm to
They need to catch Jugs at 3 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298473 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:24 pm to
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They need to catch Jugs at 3 am


Screw that.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Locking the doors to a facility containing millions in football equipment and office supplies is not acceptable.
Most major passing programs have figured out how to get WRs access. Keys and key cards have worked just fine. And security cameras are everywhere.

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