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re: Opinion on Coach O

Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:13 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32130 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:13 am to
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You are one sick puppy.




You're the one who posted it. Quit acting like a raving moron and you won't have anything to worry about. Maybe. You do contradict yourself quite a bit but that's all you.



You're changing the subject, yet again, when you're little debate is shot and have to resort to childish antics like what you posted.



I wasn't even talking to you but you felt the need to interject and talk to me for some reason. I guess because you want to run this "narrative" even though you said personally that no one can dictate the narrative.



I'm done with your nonsense.


This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 3:17 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:14 am to
And, yes idiot. LSU was razor thin in experience at WR in 2018. That little fact breezed by you last season?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:18 am to
And in case you had a Mueller moment and forgot - you have at least twice said you were "done for the night" in the last 2 pages. I'm not going to start a lengthy discussion with a guy who is done for the night.

This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 3:19 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108463 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:21 am to
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In '18, Florida and A&M. Sorry, but absolutely no excuse for the WR drops in both those games. LSU was razor thin in experience at the WR position.

We will have to agree to disagree here. Also, in 2017, it was repeated constantly that it was his first year in as full time head coach. Both Florida and A&M had coaches at their respective schools in their first year as well.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:25 am to
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We will have to agree to disagree here.
You are not seriously saying that LSU's 2018 WR room was in any way equal in experience and skill-sets to Bama's, Clemson's and Ohio State's... or are you saying that?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108463 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:28 am to
I asked of the losses in Orgeron's tenure, which teams did he lose to other than Bama because of a talent deficit. To my knowledge we didn't play Ohio St or Clemson.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:32 am to
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I asked of the losses in Orgeron's tenure, which teams did he lose to other than Bama because of a talent deficit. To my knowledge we didn't play Ohio St or Clemson.
If LSU had Ohio St's, Clemson's, or Bama's talent at WR in 2018, LSU wins in a walk over Florida and A&M.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56449 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:57 am to
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If LSU had Ohio St's, Clemson's, or Bama's talent at WR in 2018, LSU wins in a walk over Florida and A&M.

You haven't watched a game?

Drops hurt them but did you see the tackle play?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:10 am to
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Drops hurt them but did you see the tackle play?
Yes, the tackle play was piss-poor way too often. But Burrow managed to get the ball away 379 times last season. And the drops were the worst in the SEC and 57th worst among all 65 Power-5 teams.

WRs should be much better this season, but I repeat:
If LSU had Ohio St's, Clemson's, or Bama's talent at WR in 2018, LSU wins in a walk over Florida and A&M.


And tackle play should improve greatly on scheme alone. And also improve on experience and non-injury (I hope)
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 4:13 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Orgeron has done as good as anybody could possibly expect any coach to do at LSU with what he had to work with


when you post this you're saying O is the best coach in cfb.
no coach couldve done better than 7 losses in 2 years?

quote:

I just don't know what some of our idiot fans honestly expected our teams to accomplish since he's been our hc full time?


not lose to midmajor
not lose to every Mullen coached team.
not lose to team with inferior talent

just like what was expected of the last coach
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:38 am to
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n '18, Florida and A&M



Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:40 am to
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And the drops were the worst in the SEC and 57th worst among all 65 Power-5 teams. 



link
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108463 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:47 am to
Those stats have been linked before, Ricky. I can't remember if those are the exact numbers, but he is very close. I will vouch for BJ on this one. It wasn't a pretty statistic at all.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16708 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:50 am to
The way I see it everyone should be happy. It's year 3 and O has had the opportunity to build his team. If you are a believer he should have a great season with the roster he's built and coaches he's hired. 11-1 seems quite possible. Achieve this or better and you can proclaim you were right all along.

If you were adamantly against the hire the expectations are so high this season that anything less than 11-1 (10-2 maybe, but I honestly would be disappointed) and you can proclaim O underachieved and he never should have been hired.

2019 will be the "big reveal".
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:55 am to
Spot on

It’s amazing people will downvote your post.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4577 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:58 am to
Florida beat our Offensive line badly the last three games. Florida beat us in BTR when Beckwith got hurt. They ran straight up the Middle we had no answer.

Again TAM beat us because our D line. O line and RB were below SEC average.

We played much of 2017 with Russell Gage as a key WR.

Miss St beat us in Starkvegas because we traveled with 4 defensive lineman.

When Orgeron took over Aranda reminded him that LSU had more kickers and punters than inside linebackers.

In 2018 we had a very below average to average RB room

Our 2018 QB depth chart Brennan was hurt and could not play. Left us unable to run our QB.

Anyway sick of people who cannot dal with reality
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:58 am to
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If you were adamantly against the hire the expectations are so high this season that anything less than 11-1


but most who were against the hire think he is a terrible coach, the worst in ole miss history. How can you believe he is a terrible coach AND that he should go 11-1?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108463 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:58 am to
Technically he didn't have the qualifications for the job, but he's shown that he definitely belongs IMO. If anyone actually does end up being happy that he failed, then they're morons. I was as against the hire as anyone was, but it's time to admit he's doing a good job and he's at least set himself up to have an amazing season.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108463 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Florida beat us in BTR when Beckwith got hurt. They ran straight up the Middle we had no answer.


Now list all of the starters that Florida didn't have for that entire game.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:00 am to
Everyone is happy right now. The distinction is that some feel that 2019 is going to be a great season that launches LSU back into the discussion as a national power and some think that we’re already there after last year.

I’m in the former camp. The number one goal every year is to win the division. Period. We haven’t done that in a long time.
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