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re: Opinion on Coach O

Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

11-2 and those are the 2 losses. Both close games.



Good season for sure but still underachieved.


Obviously he wouldn’t be on a hot seat but if things go in 2020 the way the did for Miles in 2014 (8-4) I do think he would be in some trouble and rightfully so.


I think Woodward would be looking around and if the right candidate is interested I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he’s gone.

If he stayed in 2021 he would absolutely need another 10-2 season at minimum to get a fricking 6th year (and a half) without having made any real bid for a CFP spot.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:47 pm to
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Then dont post dumb shite like this and ask me the difference between the two.



Nah I’m asking you the difference big fella.


The difference is Miles had two bad seasons after the best nine year stretch in LSU history and O had one.

Congrats. Your boy didn’t get embarrassed for the first time in his five year coaching career.

(ETA: I actually forgot about the Alabama embarrassment so he doesn’t even have that See that’s how clearly it is that the standards have dropped. Alabama isn’t even on our radar anymore)



Now “hey we didn’t get blown out this year!!” is not exactly the same as all the “clear progress” talk we’re bombarded with every time someone dares to question if O is the guy.


But way to totally deflect on the history part of the question, because you know O deserves no benefit of the doubt because he hasn’t done anything worth mentioning.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79451 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:49 pm to
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This year is the year. If he doesn’t make the SECCG or CFP with this year’s team, he never will.



bull fricking shite...
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19946 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:52 pm to
I just can’t agree that losing to only Bama and Florida is underachieving. That’s losing to our two best opponents both of which will be top 10 teams and one of which will likely be a top 2 team in the country.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:08 pm to
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O will bring us a couple of nattys in the next five years


Lulz.

You’re kidding, right? Hard to win nattys with 9-3 ceiling every year. But I like your enthusiasm.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:21 pm to
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I just can’t agree that losing to only Bama and Florida is underachieving. That’s losing to our two best opponents both of which will be top 10 teams and one of which will likely be a top 2 team in the country.




That’s every year though man.

Eventually it has to happen. Urban’s QB isn’t walking through the door every year.

It would be tough to envision a better setup to get to 11-1.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Les Miles was 2-4 in his last 6 games against those teams.


Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Orgeron 28-45
Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Miles 45-32

And if you really want to have fun, Miles was 6-0 against Florida and A&M his last three years... Orgeron was 3-3.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:17 pm to
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Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Orgeron 28-45
Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Miles 45-32

And if you really want to have fun, Miles was 6-0 against Florida and A&M his last three years... Orgeron was 3-3.



And 0-1 vs Troy.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:24 pm to
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Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Orgeron 28-45
Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Miles 45-32



Again; the lengths people will go to try & win the internet.

You are trying to justify 2-4 record against teams LSU should almost never lose against. We won’t even get into how most of the losses were blowouts.

Correct me if I am wrong, I think O has been blown out once in his 8 or 9 losses, against state. If you understand the selection process for the CFB & important bowl games in general, you understand why that is important. Last year was the perfect example of that.

Furthermore in comparison to LSU’s last coach, you understand why that is considering a measure of improvement to where we sit today.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:29 pm to
I would just like to let it be known that anyone that has posted in this thread 15 or more time is a fricking loser
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108447 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:41 pm to
And what makes you the authority on what makes an internet message board loser with your 126+ thousand posts?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138512 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:44 pm to
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what makes you the authority on what makes an internet message board loser


quote:

126+ thousand posts


Fyi, post count booms are pretty lame
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 6:49 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16708 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:46 pm to
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And what makes you the authority on what makes an internet message board loser with your 126+ thousand posts?

Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108447 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 6:49 pm to
Fair enough. You know I'm just fricking with you anyways, Rouge.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

quote:

Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Orgeron 28-45
Combined record of the Ole Miss and Arky teams facing Miles 45-32

And if you really want to have fun, Miles was 6-0 against Florida and A&M his last three years... Orgeron was 3-3.



quote:

And 0-1 vs Troy.


And 1-1 vs Mississippi State as opposed to Miles 11-1 record.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

You are trying to justify 2-4 record against teams LSU should almost never lose against.


Don't explain my argument to me. Miles was justifiably fired because, even despite 100+ wins, three SEC championships, and two BCS championship appearances, losing three conference games a year wasn't good enough.

And if it wasn't good enough for that coach, it's not good enough for Orgeron (by his own admission, I might add). I don't really give a shite who the losses come from. As I've stated, he may have been 6-0 against those two specific teams, but the losses came from others.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:29 pm to
quote:


You are trying to justify 2-4 record against teams LSU should almost never lose against. We won’t even get into how most of the losses were blowouts.


Miles never lost to a G5 team.

That Troy loss turned our program into a laughingstock.

Between the defensive line coach's loss to Troy, the fact that he has yet to compete vs Bama and Miles's record vs OM and Arky, I think we can call it even.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290755 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:34 pm to
Miles was once down 31-3 in a game to Troy lol.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:40 pm to
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That Troy loss turned our program into a laughingstock.
Thanks Troy Boy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:40 pm to
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That Troy loss turned our program into a laughingstock.


Only people that remember it are a few on this board.

Miles was down 28 points to a Troy team that finished with 5 losses
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 7:43 pm
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