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Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:58 pm to Damone
Sure. But 11 wins this season, regular season or not, and I would be happy with the improvement. O is referencing overall wins when he said 10 wins is good, not great (which by the way isn’t the same as saying. 10 wins isn’t good enough) and you are twisting his words as if he said 10 regular season wins and a bowl win isn’t good enough.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:59 pm to The Pirate King
To Ceauxch Eaux
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:04 pm to BananaHammock
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Since the National Championship loss:
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Why wouldn’t you include the embarrassing 21-0 arse-whipping that set LSU back an entire decade in your list?
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Because the poster I was responding to said...
[quote]And the last time we had a lead vs Bama was years ago so it is not just O's teams that have struggled to score on their D.
Canwoodtiger and I were discussing the last time we had a lead against Alabama. Which was in 2014.
We all know we had the lead in 2011 because we won the game. We all know we never had the lead in the NC game because we didn't score a single fricking point. But if you were to go back and look at the box scores for the years I listed, there were games we had the lead at one point, there were games we were tied at one point of the game and there were games that we never had the lead at all.
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You and RickMomma seem to blot out that memory (I don’t blame you).
Not blotting it out. We all know what happened. Just trying to show another poster that even though we've lost every game against Bama since the 2011 9-6 victory, there were a few under Miles where we at least had the lead at some point of the games.
By all means include the 21-0 game if you must.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:13 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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We will never have a better setup between returning/incoming talent
False
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and favorable schedule than 2019
We don’t need a favorable schedule to win the CFP. 2011 was a meat grinder and we made it to the Natty
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:27 pm to Lester Earl
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Well, he's 6-0 vs Arkansas and Ole Miss.
Is it supposed to be impressive that he's undefeated against two teams who haven't put together a winning record in three years?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:31 pm to Terrific Tales
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I think we may have ended up losing to Ole Miss or A&M had he stayed
You think that Les Miles presence on the team would have been so detrimental that it would have cost us 3+ scores against a team that hadn't beat us in five straight tries and fired their coach, and the last place team in the division?
frick off.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:47 pm to chilge1
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Well, he's 6-0 vs Arkansas and Ole Miss.
Is it supposed to be impressive that he's undefeated against two teams who haven't put together a winning record in three years?
I’d like to be able to tell Earl he’s better than that, but he clearly isn’t
Posted on 7/28/19 at 2:53 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Bottom line is, at LSU the expectation every year is you beat your OOC opponents, the SECW bottom-dwellers, your rotating SECE opponent, and take 2/3 from Florida, Auburn, and aTm. Until Orgeron does that, he’s not really LSU’s coach.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:09 pm to chilge1
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Until Orgeron does that, he’s not really LSU’s coach.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:11 pm to chilge1
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Bottom line is, at LSU the expectation every year is you beat your OOC opponents, the SECW bottom-dwellers, your rotating SECE opponent, and take 2/3 from Florida, Auburn, and aTm. Until Orgeron does that, he’s not really LSU’s coach.
What an arbitrary standard and completely meaningless......you don’t get to just pretend he isn’t the coach
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:18 pm to chilge1
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Is it supposed to be impressive that he's undefeated against two teams who haven't put together a winning record in three years?
Les Miles was 2-4 in his last 6 games against those teams.
including blowouts:
17-0 L ARK
31-14 L ARK
38-17 L Ole MIss
It was your question, your standards. This board continues to attempt to defend Miles' last years and it simply cannot be done. And in the next breath want to question why standards have been lowered. You are so oblivious you couldnt even comprehend the point.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Miles' last 16 games:
Interesting place to start.
Conveniently leaving out the 5 loss season.
The man won a National Championship and multiple SEC titles. I'll let him slide on one five-loss season.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:35 pm to Lester Earl
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This board continues to attempt to defend Miles' last years and it simply cannot be done. And in the next breath want to question why standards have been lowered
I think we all acknowledge that the defensive line coach is marginally better than the guy that got fired.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 3:55 pm to Lester Earl
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Les Miles was 2-4 in his last 6 games against those teams.
Please compare 2013-15 Ark and OM to those teams in 2016-18. TIA
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This board continues to attempt to defend Miles' last years and it simply cannot be done
Defend?
Nah. Just comparing those regular seasons to O’s so far.
2013: 3 losses
2014: 4 losses
2015: 3 losses
2016: both had 2 losses
2017: 3 losses
2018: 3 losses
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And in the next breath want to question why standards have been lowered
Tell me the difference in those seasons.
Then we can see whose standards have changed.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:10 pm to Tiger Voodoo
You think every win and loss is equal
The things that people try and pass along as logical in order to win an argument on a message board always astounds me
The things that people try and pass along as logical in order to win an argument on a message board always astounds me
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:19 pm to LSU615
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The man won a National Championship and multiple SEC titles. I'll let him slide on one five loss season.
Two.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:27 pm to Lester Earl
ASTOUNDS you. Not a bit surprised
And I don’t even disagree all losses aren’t equal.
O had two very embarrassing losses in his first season (please tell us all again how those losses are actually Miles’ fault though
)
So we’ve had one season without any embarrassing losses. Progress indeed.
But would you also agree that a coach’s history is relevant in how they are evaluated?
Miles basically had two bad years and was being actively ousted despite his previous record probably the best nine season stretch in school history.
And I agreed that he should’ve been fired if he didn’t win the West in 16.
O hasn’t done a thing other than not get blown out for one season so you can bet he will continue to be doubted and questioned until he has a bigger and better feather in his cap than that.
ETA: Totally forgot about about the 29-0 Alabama embarrassment
And I don’t even disagree all losses aren’t equal.
O had two very embarrassing losses in his first season (please tell us all again how those losses are actually Miles’ fault though
) So we’ve had one season without any embarrassing losses. Progress indeed.
But would you also agree that a coach’s history is relevant in how they are evaluated?
Miles basically had two bad years and was being actively ousted despite his previous record probably the best nine season stretch in school history.
And I agreed that he should’ve been fired if he didn’t win the West in 16.
O hasn’t done a thing other than not get blown out for one season so you can bet he will continue to be doubted and questioned until he has a bigger and better feather in his cap than that.
ETA: Totally forgot about about the 29-0 Alabama embarrassment
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:29 pm to Tiger Voodoo
So what would your feelings be about this season if we lose a close game to Bama in which we are competitive but fall short, and lose a close game to Florida, and then win our bowl game? 11-2 and those are the 2 losses. Both close games.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:32 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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And I don’t even disagree all losses aren’t equal.
Then dont post dumb shite like this and ask me the difference between the two.
Nah. Just comparing those regular seasons to O’s so far.
2013: 3 losses
2014: 4 losses
2015: 3 losses
2016: both had 2 losses
2017: 3 losses
2018: 3 losses
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