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re: Opinion on Coach O
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You mean he didn't contact anyone but Herman and O?
Because that's absolutely not true.
Now, if you want to criticize how quickly he put Orgeron on board after Herman waffled, that's legit.
Honestly, there's a difference in putting a few feelers out and a serious search process. I don't think there was much of a search before O was hired and little after Canada left and Steve was hired. It is what it is and ultimately if year 3 turns out to be a great season and the momentum continues, who cares?
It's been an unconventional road to say the least, but all that matters is the end result. 2019 should be a telling season.
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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At this point the team is all Orgerons, and 3 losses aren't acceptable this season.
Well that’s obvious.
Are 2 losses (regular season) acceptable in your opinion?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:31 pm to chilge1
The way we were playing that season? I think we may have ended up losing to Ole Miss or A&M had he stayed. There is no way of knowing but the team just didn’t look like their heads were in it until O took over that year. That happens all the time in a lot of sports. Sometimes change is necessary not because what you have is bad, but just because it wasn’t working anymore.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:31 pm to Tiger Voodoo
2 regular season losses is definitely not acceptable
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:31 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Are 2 losses (regular season) acceptable in your opinion?
What a weird question. I'm not the decision maker.
It's improvement, so I will assume yes.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:31 pm to Awlunz Tiger
we were on the up in 15. Better record than the previous year. should have been 10-3 with cancelled game and made a huge hire in aranda. Les was bringing in back to back to back top 5 classes.
It's just strange to me that Ed Orgeron has basically the same exact season, but with him we are on the up, with Les it was a decline. Les obviously gets fired with 2 losses before the season ends. Do we fire Ed if he makes it to two losses? Or do we keep lying to ourselves?
It's just strange to me that Ed Orgeron has basically the same exact season, but with him we are on the up, with Les it was a decline. Les obviously gets fired with 2 losses before the season ends. Do we fire Ed if he makes it to two losses? Or do we keep lying to ourselves?
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:32 pm to BayouCowboy
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Honestly, there's a difference in putting a few feelers out and a serious search process.
This.
We all heard how impressive O’s binder was.
Are we supposed to think every fricking coach in the country wouldn’t have put together a nice and compelling presentation to show their vision for the LSU program??
Without an interview those “feelers” are worth jack shite.
It was absolute breach of duty to make that hire without a true search and interview process.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:32 pm to Damone
If we go 11-2 with a NY6 bowl win you won’t call that an acceptable season? Tough crowd. Y’all do remember we play in the toughest conference in football right?
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What a weird question. I'm not the decision maker.
Then I suppose we don’t need to hear your opinion on anything regarding the program going forward
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It's improvement, so I will assume yes.
Improvement?
Is this team’s potential capped at 10-2?
If not, wouldn’t that record also be a bit of a disappointment?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:36 pm to Damone
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2 regular season losses is definitely not acceptable
Well, you have no say in the matter. so.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:36 pm to BayouCowboy
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. I don't think there was much of a search before O was hired and little after Canada left and Steve was hired.
I've heard conflicting stuff. In the end, people will believe what they choose to believe.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:38 pm to Awlunz Tiger
2019 will be the most telling for Orgeron.
Barring any big injuries, 11-1 should be the expectation.
Texas is the type of game that you need to win if you want to be a contender. The schedule sets up nicely (most of the tough ones are at home). He needs to finally beat Mullen this year.
3 losses or more and I hope we move on.
Barring any big injuries, 11-1 should be the expectation.
Texas is the type of game that you need to win if you want to be a contender. The schedule sets up nicely (most of the tough ones are at home). He needs to finally beat Mullen this year.
3 losses or more and I hope we move on.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I agree about Orgeron. It’s his program now. Any deficiencies in talent or depth are on him. I respect you for admitting that.
And you’re right, nobody who really cares about LSU is gonna be happy with a 9 win season this year. Most of us are very reasonable but have been presumed anti Orgeron bc we don’t think what we’ve seen to this point constitutes a championship level program. And a championship level program is what were and what we were promised to be again when Miles was fired.
My hope is that most LSU fans don’t forget that and don’t let the bar get lowered. That’s what was happening under Alleva. We were sold a bill of goods and being conditioned to accept mediocrity.
Woodward aims higher. Is a miracle worker? No, but you’re not gonna find an AD any better and the guy truly cares about LSU on top of being excellent at his job.
And you’re right, nobody who really cares about LSU is gonna be happy with a 9 win season this year. Most of us are very reasonable but have been presumed anti Orgeron bc we don’t think what we’ve seen to this point constitutes a championship level program. And a championship level program is what were and what we were promised to be again when Miles was fired.
My hope is that most LSU fans don’t forget that and don’t let the bar get lowered. That’s what was happening under Alleva. We were sold a bill of goods and being conditioned to accept mediocrity.
Woodward aims higher. Is a miracle worker? No, but you’re not gonna find an AD any better and the guy truly cares about LSU on top of being excellent at his job.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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or the 4th best class in the sec in 2019.
Exhibit A when people deny that they don"t want Orgeron to fail
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:42 pm to Terrific Tales
So you don’t expect O to win the division or conference? What a hater.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Well Coach O himself said that 10 wins isn’t good enough so I’m just echoing his sentiments.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I've heard conflicting stuff. In the end, people will believe what they choose to believe.
Well there was absolutely some crazy uncorroborated shite on the Coaching Changes board. I spent way too much time trying to figure out fact or fiction back then.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:43 pm to Damone
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So you don’t expect O to win the division or conference? What a hater.
That's what you got from his comment?
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:46 pm to Awlunz Tiger
orgeron's resume was nowhere near good enough to be hired at LSU. That being said, he has exceeded my expectations to this point. The next two seasons will show a lot about his ability to run the program.
Posted on 7/28/19 at 1:46 pm to chilge1
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What game did Orgeron win that Miles would have lost?
Well, he's 6-0 vs Arkansas and Ole Miss.
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