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re: Only 3 National Seeds made it out of their own regional!

Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Now it depends less on talent and far more on getting hot at the right time, getting those couple of lucky calls, or your opponent just making that one critical error. There WAS a time when the better team could overcome this with offense, but the NCAA killed that.


Just the opposite. Now more than ever the crème will rise to the top. No more of the #9 hitter jacking 18 homeruns. Now it takes the talent of being able to hit, to bunt, to field, run bases without making the errors to win. Back in the 90s all of those deficiencies could be overcome with hitting 6 homers in a game and score 12 runs.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19159 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:15 pm to
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College Baseball has more parity than ever.


It is called Small Ball... its killing the college game. It has brought the terms Loud Outs and Atom Balls to the forefront of college baseball. Pitchers get away with murder and lots of runners get stranded.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12126 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:19 pm to
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Just the opposite. Now more than ever the crème will rise to the top.


No. Now more than ever the creme of the crop can be downed by a simple error or the lessor team getting lucky. It is a lot easier to knock off a top level team when a game has 3 runs than it was when it had 12 runs.

Maybe that is a type of baseball you enjoy where it is easier to usurp a quality team. Some do. Most don't. Even the NCAA realized that they screwed it up - changing the ball is a way for them to try to fix their mistake without admitting their error.
Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 3:15 am to
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It is called Small Ball... its killing the college game. It has brought the terms Loud Outs and Atom Balls to the forefront of college baseball. Pitchers get away with murder and lots of runners get stranded


while I agree that I would like a bit livelier bat, keep in mind everyone plays with the same bat and ball .....

there is no doubt that most programs are putting more resources toward their baseball program , therefore you have a larger number of better teams ....
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60736 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:27 am to
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Now more than ever the crème will rise to the top.


Bull. shite.

When a team uses the strategy to throw belt high fastballs because the bats are so shitty you can't hurt them and rides that strategy all the way to a national championship, the game is broken. LSU hit more balls hard in 2 innings Monday than Houston did the entire regional.

Order will be restored next year with the minor league ball. LSU will win it all, bookmark it.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14686 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:44 am to
Isn't the minor league ball not going to be used until next postseason?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:52 am to
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I made a C once in high school. The world didn't end.


All those D's and F's and you still graduated!

That's what Louisiana public schools are all about.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Now more than ever the creme of the crop can be downed by a simple error or the lessor team getting lucky. It is a lot easier to knock off a top level team when a game has 3 runs than it was when it had 12 runs


That simple error wouldn't happen MOST of the time with talent.

Exactly! With real talent and no homerun derby games, the games will be closer.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:11 pm to
The OP has a legit point but I would counter it with this...of the 5 seeds that were eliminated, how many won their first 2 games and held a 4 - 0 lead in the 8th inning of the 3rd before their coach shite the bed?
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14797 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Posted by EastBankTiger The OP has a legit point but I would counter it with this...of the 5 seeds that were eliminated, how many won their first 2 games and held a 4 - 0 lead in the 8th inning of the 3rd before their coach shite the bed?


So that's worse than going 2 and q in your own regional?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56642 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:13 pm to
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you still have teams like USCe who seem to always be around when it comes to Omaha.
except for them getting skulldrug, yeah, you right.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 12:36 am to
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It is called Small Ball... its killing the college game.


It has killed it for many tradition rich schools.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12126 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 4:36 am to
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That simple error wouldn't happen MOST of the time with talent.


Even the most talented team in the Majors, with the fewest errors, commits an error in 4 of 10 games. The average is slightly over half and that is a far higher concentration of talent than college ball. So, MOST of the time that simple error WOULD happen even with a talented team.

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Exactly! With real talent and no homerun derby games, the games will be closer.


Thereby making it more likely that a less talented team will win. That is not the type of baseball that I prefer. Also, it requires more talented pitching and fielding to hold a team a bay that can rake it than a team that can't.

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no homerun derby games


The 1997 team hit more out of the park than any team before or since and they still lost roughly 1 out of every 5 games. They hit more than anyone else the next year and lost games 3 and 4 in the CWS. So, homerun derby ball isn't the end-all be-all of winning. Side note: The top 3 starters of the 1997 team had 374 strikeouts; the 2014 top 3 starters had only 218 including Nola.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 5:30 am
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26705 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 6:20 am to
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I bet they didn't melt down as badly when they got skull dragged by Maryland.


I don't know about that. I was there. Their fans began a mass exodus after the 5th inning. Quiet as a Sunday service from the 3rd inning on.
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