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re: One Second Left BS

Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:30 am to
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:30 am to
I believe, in a situation that happened yesterday to Bama, the NCAA should have a rule where if a play is being reviewed, like yesterday, and the result would allow for more time on the clock, there should be some a set time limit that is allowable to get off a play. I know the typical 3 seconds is what’s needed, especially when trying to spike a ball. I dislike BAMA as much as anyone else but that type of play is unfair to any team that it happens to. Had the play been ruled correctly, Auburn would have never had time to get the kick team on the field to kick that field goal in one sec. I think this has to be addressed in some sort of rule change.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4881 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:30 am to
quote:

I hate Alabama and Saban, but he was right to be pissed in that situation.

He was indeed. I would be shocked if a new three or so second runoff is not implemented next year for same scenario.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:33 am to
Similar situation screwed us last year. ATM got the benefit of a review on the Mond knee on the ground play. They had no timeouts left there and had the call been ruked correctly on the field ATM would not have had the time to do what they did to go tie the game and send it to OT. Essentially the wrong call on the field, gave ATM a timeout and then allowed them to call multiple plays during the stoppage.

It is what it is.

frick Bama.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:34 am to
quote:

I wouldn't doubt if the SEC tries to implement a rule change now that their darling was burned by it.

there should be a rule change, and I've seen this happen to other teams.

A team (without a timeout) should not be aided by a stopped clock to review a play. So there should be some automatic clock runoff, depending on the scenario. Auburn got a first down, so the clock would stop temporarily, but no way they could run their FG on in time, so they could try to spike it, but again, no way they could line up and spike the ball in 1 second.

This is a loophole in the rules that needs to be fixed.
Posted by lsutiger4life
gonzales
Member since Sep 2005
5365 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:36 am to
Umm he’s saying down vote him all you want , he’s been thru much worse to care about an internet troll hating on his post.

He’s a Vet and deserves respect , but also knows he has fought so you can be an internet troll...

Sec will add the 10 second runoff next year .... problem solved ....
Posted by buckRogers
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:36 am to
He was more lamenting the loophole that got uncovered. Auburn had no timeouts so there really shouldn't be a way for them to line up and kick a field goal with one second left. The refs reviewing it gave them time to line their FG team up and wait for the result. So when they eventually did put the 1 second back on and start the clock they could instantly snap the ball. No way they pull that off without the review. So it wasn't really the putting 1 second back on the clock as much as it was Auburn getting a free time out from the refs review.

All that said, the whole thing was perfectly legal and was correct within the rules. If people don't want to see that scenario they need to clamor for a rule change, not argue that this case was unfair in and of itself.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 11:37 am
Posted by buckRogers
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:40 am to
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there should be a rule change, and I've seen this happen to other teams. A team (without a timeout) should not be aided by a stopped clock to review a play. So there should be some automatic clock runoff, depending on the scenario. Auburn got a first down, so the clock would stop temporarily, but no way they could run their FG on in time, so they could try to spike it, but again, no way they could line up and spike the ball in 1 second. This is a loophole in the rules that needs to be fixed.


Complicated solution, though. Do people want a 10-second run off? What if there's a controversial catch with 5 seconds left that gets reviewed? Offenses would normally be able to spike it here, so a ten-second run off for officials doing their job and reviewing the play wouldn't fit. So maybe there's a rule specifically for when there's only 1 second left on the clock? Maybe. I'm just saying it's not as easy of a rule-fix as people might think.

Off the top of my head you could have a rule where if there's 1-2 seconds left and there's an official review, then the offense has to take the ensuing snap in the same formation/group that was on the field before the review (AKA no kicking team on the field). But still, I don't see how a well-coached team couldn't have their field goal team on the sideline ready to sprint on to the field with 1 second left after a first down.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 11:43 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133531 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:42 am to
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Saban was duped and is a sore loser.


Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:43 am to
If LSU received the ‘Bama treatment,’ we don’t lose to Auburn in ‘16, and probably have a different coach and this season likely never happens.

It’s incredible how losing that game on what I thought to be a bullshite call (IMO, Etling clocked it in time) has ultimately been so beneficial to the program.
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
77134 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:44 am to
Great example of losing the battle, but winning the war.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62000 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:45 am to
This is a $hitty post
Posted by buckRogers
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Saban was duped and is a sore loser


Lol make no mistake, this whole thing is definitely because Saban isn't used to weird shenanigans not going his way. If the situation is reversed then Saban is just saying "well those are the rules" and Gus is used to getting shanked by the refs against Bama so he doesn't make much of it.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47938 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:53 am to
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Nick has a legit complaint.
I ain’t mad though!


That's what makes it so delicious - It wold be even better if there were obvious "Official Bias" involved = would love to see Alabama screwed out of a win by an OBVIOUSLY BIASED official == they need to feel that upchuck feeling down for a couple of years.

Yes - the play should have never been allowed to take place under this scenario - but HURRAH - Alabama is still ahead of the game by a few thousand of these 'interpretation' decisions.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47938 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 11:58 am to
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Similar situation screwed us last year. ATM got the benefit of a review on the Mond knee on the ground play. They had no timeouts left there and had the call been ruked correctly on the field ATM would not have had the time to do what they did to go tie the game and send it to OT. Essentially the wrong call on the field, gave ATM a timeout and then allowed them to call multiple plays during the stoppage.




Yes - LSU has come out on the shitty end of dozens of these kind of "prescient occurrences' == I have no sympathy for someone like Saban getting pricked once every dozen or so years.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29063 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:03 pm to
This also happened at the end of the first half of LSU’s loss to Troy.

A review gave the Trojans a free timeout and time to get a field goal unit on the field.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2210 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:13 pm to
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It’s incredible how losing that game on what I thought to be a bullshite call (IMO, Etling clocked it in time) has ultimately been so beneficial to the program


Etling didn't clock the ball--he didn't have enough time to do so.

The 2016 situation is exactly what Saban was saying: if the ruling on the field had been adjudicated correctly, it is unlikely Auburn would have gotten the play off for the field goal. In 2016, LSU gained a first down with one second on the clock. They ran up to the ball and were generally prepared to snap when the ready for play whistle was blown. However, the slight hesitation meant that the center didn't get the ball off in time.

Since the review was done yesterday, Auburn lined up while the review was taking place and everyone was ready to go even before the review result was announced. Then, when the ref backed out and blew the whistle, the center snapped the ball on the whistle.

It's crazy that Auburn benefited from both situations, but the process of the review was done correctly according to the rules. Not sure there is a way to write the rule to make it more fair. Just like the Mond knee down last year, there is no way that play gets off without the review happening. (In the Mond case, they ran off 10 seconds because it truly was a running clock, but there is no way aTm would have gotten the next play off in less than 10 seconds. That's why you always want to hold that last time out for a sack, if possible.)

It is amazing that Gus Malzahn has become the SEC Time Lord.

Then again, Bama lost and their tears are delicious. RTWFU!

GEAUX TIGERS
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
934 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:22 pm to
Bama in death spiral. Don’t be surprised to see Fire Saban sites
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6836 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 12:24 pm to
Oh, I know what he’s saying. It’s just not at all relevant to what he’s saying. There are tons of honorable veterans that post here without attention whoring about it. I’m very grateful for their service but it has ZERO to do with this board.
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