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re: On3's JD Pickell predicts LSU's regular season record

Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:54 pm to
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ellers will have a "sophomore slump".
Disagree. I think he will look better as a passer, but won't improve enough to get them to the playoffs.
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He is dual threat, but is more dangerous with his legs
I expect similar rushing numbers.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:02 pm to
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I hate it when people use shite reasoning like this for their “analysis”
You can hate it all you want, but a simple analysis is sometimes best. The passing games are equal, LSU has a better running back group, but matched up, both look even as far as rushing goes. Clemson has a good OL, LSU's is questionable. They have a great DL, and LSU has the potential for a great DL. LSU LBs beat theirs, but each secondary is an unknown. They were horrific vs the run game last year, but we were bad at running last year.

With most positions being washes, weaknesses clashing with weaknesses, and strengths clashing with strengths, the only thing left is who wants it more. I don't care what ANYBODY says. LSU wants their season opening win more than anybody else in the country.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:02 pm to
Film is out on him now with time to prepare. I expect teams to force him to beat them out of the pocket.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:03 pm to
I just can’t see a loss to SC at home. They lost a lot on defense and I am not sold on Sellers. I think LSU blows them out.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:07 pm to
Did they even play a top 15 team last year in the regular season? Im not calling anyone great that didnt play an elite team last year. We just dont know.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17083 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:08 pm to
I mean you named one position group that LSU had an advantage at. You didn't mention returning production, which is extremely important especially in game 1. And you didn't mention home field advantage. So out of 7ish positions groups, coaching, home field advantage, and returning production, they are all either a wash or a Clemson advantage, except for the LB position. I don't think saying LSU "needs it more" determines the winner. Especially when we don't even know that to be true.

And I'm not saying that Clemson is 100% going to win. I just think using "LSU needs this game more" as the determining factor is dumb.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:13 pm to
The only 100 legit advantage is home field. The rest are debatable.
Posted by sp22
Member since Jan 2019
768 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:16 pm to
I think we have advantages at QB, HC, DC. They have OC and home field
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:19 pm to
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The sellers stuff is extremely nauseating. He can’t pass


While I agree, we saw what Mildew did to us at home last year without needing to pass
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:22 pm to
If we still have THAT defense against the run, then clemson won't really matter.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16540 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:53 pm to
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I mean you named one position group that LSU had an advantage at. You didn't mention returning production, which is extremely important especially in game 1. And you didn't mention home field advantage. So out of 7ish positions groups, coaching, home field advantage, and returning production, they are all either a wash or a Clemson advantage, except for the LB position. I don't think saying LSU "needs it more" determines the winner. Especially when we don't even know that to be true.


Not sure what his name is, but there's a guy that fills in for AFR and OTB all the time (I actually think his takes are the most substantive) and he talked returning production. He did it from an SEC perspective so Clemson was not factored. LSU returns 65% offensive and 64% defensive. That put LSU near the top of the SEC. Where it got interesting was number of starts for returning players and number of starts for portal adds put LSU #2 in the SEC.

There's no guarantee the players mesh together out the gate, but Ole Miss built a team out of primarily portal players and went 10-3. Those 3 losses were by a total of 17 points including the OT win by LSU. LSU has a much better balance of portal and returning experience.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:55 pm to
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He thinks we beat Clemson


Stopped reading. I do not think we'll win a game 1 against a legitimate opponent. We just don't seem to get ready for games.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76943 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:56 pm to
I expect the defense to be better equipped to contain Sellers this season.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17083 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:00 pm to
LSU is at 65% retuning offensive production which ranks 40th. 64% returning defensive production which ranks 23rd.

Clemson is at 85% returning offensive production which ranks 1st. 76% returning defensive production which ranks 6th.
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
9901 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:10 pm to
I think we lose 3 games, but south carolina at home ain't going to be one. They drunk
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16540 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:11 pm to
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LSU is at 65% retuning offensive production which ranks 40th. 64% returning defensive production which ranks 23rd.

Clemson is at 85% returning offensive production which ranks 1st. 76% returning defensive production which ranks 6th.

I know. That doesn't account for portal adds though and when you look at it is it better to replace the production of Burns and Sage with Haulcy and Cooley? Perkins was lost after UCLA so his production as a starter from that point forward is counted. Same for Guillory from game 1 and most of the season for Hilton. Those 3 are essentially hidden returning production.
Posted by Chase504jeffersonla
Member since Jul 2025
82 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:12 pm to
I don’t think we lose to them either. I expect our LBers group to terrorize dual threat QBs this year .
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6811 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:26 pm to
I agree is going to be tough at Oklahoma but, they’ve lost 14 games at home in 25 years and Venables has lost 6 of them. Thats 42% and if we are playing good this late in the season, we have a chance to make the playoff if we beat Oklahoma, I feel BARRING No injuries we beat them. If we don’t once again we don’t belong. We should be the only one of those 2 teams with a playoff chance. If they spoil our chance CBKs seat is on FIRE. We win BARRING injuries, somewhat fully(no one in week 12 is) healthy We are better.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17083 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:33 pm to
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I know.

You didn't include Clemson's numbers so I included them for reference.
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That doesn't account for portal adds though and when you look at it is it better to replace the production of Burns and Sage with Haulcy and Cooley?

True. To play devil's advocate, a guy like Jardin Gilbert is also included in the returning production number. Not sure how great that is.
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Perkins was lost after UCLA so his production as a starter from that point forward is counted. Same for Guillory from game 1 and most of the season for Hilton. Those 3 are essentially hidden returning production.

Everybody has injuries. I'm sure Clemson had guys that were injured last year too.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16540 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:51 pm to
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Everybody has injuries. I'm sure Clemson had guys that were injured last year too.

No doubt, but consider those 3:
Guillory - going into 24' he was the only returning DT with experience and considered the anchor of the DL. Gone game 1.

Perkins - at one point thought to be the most dynamic defensive player in CFB. Lost for the last 8 games. Baker putting him at star should get him back to a disrupter role

Hilton - No one on roster scared defenses deep after he went down game 1. Healthy and back at the end of the season he finishes with 198 and 3 TDs in 2 games and Nuss finishes the season with 7 TDs vs 1 INT.

Clemson is still the favored team and should win. My only point is that I think LSU is a lot closer in talent than what some might think, especially when you factor in returning injured players and the #1 portal class in CFB with the rest of the roster.
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