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Ole Miss's Offense Success vs Bama

Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:51 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16361 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:51 pm
Not e'thing Freeze does is right but his approach on O torments Saban. In the last two games vs Bama, OM has scored 43 pts 2X and amassed 954 yds. In the last two years, we have scored 16 pts with 307 yds of O.

Is there a reason we can't adopt their model on offense?

I know CEO said he prefers a pro-style offense. That's ok. It works every Lord's Day. But it only works against pro-style DL if you have pro-style OL and/or a really capable QB. We have neither. And we're realistically about 2 years away at the earliest.

A less talent intensive way is how OM is doing it. (Is it not mind numbing to think that we declined to even recruit Chad Kelly?).

Posted by RagingCajun3195
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2014
2013 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:54 pm to
I'm not making excuses, we got our asses kicked. But we get alabamas best game, always.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16361 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:56 pm to
I would think OM's got a pretty good effort from Bama as well considering they had beat them the two previous years.
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2679 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:02 am to
It helps when your QB is mobile and can actually throw the deep ball. Kelly is light years better than Etling will ever be IMO.

A lot of what ifs, but we could be 8-0 right now with a QB like him at the helm.
I'm not a fan but respect #10 game
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12170 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:33 am to
quote:

can actually throw the deep ball.
and you have receivers that win nearly every jump ball. Lsu tries to smash mouth Alabama, and that's just a stupid strategy.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47561 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:48 am to
There are plenty of pro teams that use shotgun formations. That's all we needed to do problem was we used it on 3rd and 10 or worse but if we would've used it on 1st down to set up better 2nd and 3rd situations we could've done something. If you go back and watch the game it was our most effective formation.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
2913 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 1:40 am to
I have to agree with you on this. Saban would prefer to lose to Auburn than LSU. We get their best game and game plan every single season, they pull out all the stops after the bye.
Posted by BCC
Virginia
Member since Oct 2012
4 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:42 am to
I find Trump's win last night to be less of a mystery than LSU scoring ZERO compared to Ole Miss's 43!!! I struggle to believe that the difference between Etling and Kelly is 40 plus points, but I grudgingly agree. I like Etling, but he is a very strong backup on most teams, and maybe struggles to be 3rd string on most top 20 teams. The game plan was far too conservative, and only a reckless and risky offensive plan, combined with the game of Etling's life would have worked. We didn't try the first, and didn't get the latter.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:43 am to
spreading out Bama and a true duel threat QB is the best way to move the ball against Bama(and most other teams for that matter). You can't go straight at them or have a QB sitting in a pocket.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:47 am to
quote:



spreading out Bama and a true duel threat QB




Engrish-----lern eet.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 10:31 am to
See Johnny FB
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1205 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:24 pm to
It's the quarterback. We don't have an SEC QB. If we had Kelly we'd have beaten Bama badly. Etling while better than Harris is not an SEC QB. Until we recruit and coach up an SEC QB we won't beat Bama.
Posted by mon_trell79
Utah
Member since Jan 2016
94 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 5:04 pm to
Lsu offence is boring and it have no creativity to it at all.
Posted by austintexastiger
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2006
1911 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 7:42 pm to
what dovehunter said

Ole Miss has great QBs - we do not
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4709 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:03 am to
Chad Kelley Is Your Answer.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:20 am to
Arky scored alot on them too.
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:28 am to
I've said it countless times, Ole Miss probably has the best passing attack in the country, Chad Kelly with the recieving core we have is by far top 5 in the country. LSU just doesn't have that...
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16361 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

Until we recruit and coach up an SEC QB we won't beat Bama


OK, but to be fair, most wouldn't consider JJ an SEC caliber QB and we won 2X with him.

There are 3 reasons to bring up OM's success on O vs Bama:
1) It's been successful
2) Comparable talent on O (other than at QB)
3) We passed on Chad Kelly No JUCO QB for LSU

There's no reason what we can't field an O that can function like OM. So imagine, that O and our D vs Bama Sat night in TS . . .
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76157 posts
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:49 pm to
It's not simply "getting our asses kicked" nor is it simply OL talent (OM's OL Isnt 43 points better than LSU's). Nor can it be solely attributed to QB talent--recall even with Mett and NFL skill talent, LSU topped out at 17 points. Year after year after year, LSU has zero offensive success against Bama even while some other teams do.

It's the scheme. The philosophy. It will never work against Bama. Lord knows LSU keeps trying. The only offenses to give Bama trouble lately--Oklahoma, Ohio St, Clemson, Ole Miss, Texas AM--do not run the puckered a-hole LSU offense.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:33 am to
Les fricking Miles and Cam passed on him because they were content with their outdated offense.
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