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re: Ole Miss losing is not good for LSU.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:22 am to bfniii
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:22 am to bfniii
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we want all our opponents to be as highly ranked as possible to strengthen lsu's body of work
I was unaware that there was a strength of factor segment to determining the SEC West representative in Atlanta. If there was, then Ole Miss would have no shot because they don't play Florida, UGA, or Tennessee. Knowing that they get to play the weaker of the SEC East teams, and LSU has to play the best two SEC East teams, I want Ole Miss to lose as many games as possible until they are eliminated from making the SEC championship game.
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Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:22 am to medtiger
quote:this is absolutely false
If LSU goes undefeated this year, they will have no problem getting to the NC game, regardless of opponent's records.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:23 am to inebr8ted tiger
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Ole Miss losing is not good for LSU.
Stopped reading here... I am sorry man but there is no hope for...
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:23 am to bfniii
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this is absolutely false. you can get beat highly ranked opponents AND get to atl
But what if LSU has 2 losses this year, but beats Ole Miss and Bama (which is much more likely than them being undefeated or with 1 loss)? Wouldn't it be nice for Ole Miss and Bama to also have a couple of losses, so that we win the tiebreaker against them?
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:25 am to bfniii
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this is absolutely false
So, you think an undefeated SEC champ is going to be left out of the NC game this year? Over who? An undefeated Penn St or Cal?
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:25 am to medtiger
quote:once again, lsu can beat highly ranked opponents AND make it to atlanta. we want the BEST POSSIBLE scenario. even if lsu does happen to lose, it's better to lose to a higher ranked opponent
LSU needs to win the SEC West first and foremost,
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:26 am to bfniii
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this is absolutely false. you can get beat highly ranked opponents AND get to atl. again, you want the BEST POSSIBLE scenario for lsu.
How do you get to Atlanta if that highly ranked opponent is in the SEC west? If you still manage to get there, thats saying that highly ranked opponent must have lost at least 2 other games (compared to LSU's one loss vs that team). In that case they wouldnt be ranked that highly anmore would they, and thus, would not look as good as you're expecting when the end of the season comes around.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:28 am to medtiger
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But what if LSU has 2 losses this year, but beats Ole Miss and Bama (which is much more likely than them being undefeated or with 1 loss)? Wouldn't it be nice for Ole Miss and Bama to also have a couple of losses, so that we win the tiebreaker against them?
This reminds me of the old saying
"If the if was a skift we could all go for a boat ride:
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:29 am to BleedPurpleGold
quote:people, if ole miss beats an east team, lsu can still win the west. if lsu beats all west opponents, lsu goes to atl. if lsu beats highly ranked west opponents, all the better. BEST POSSIBLE scenario
I think they focus on winning the west first (good that Ole Miss lost),
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:31 am to bfniii
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BEST POSSIBLE scenario
Best possible scenario is not always the most likely scenario. And in this case, probably close to the impossible scenario. Our team just isn't good enough to run the table. We couldn't do it in '03 or '07.
Keeping this in mind, I like the fact that we got a little help because we sure will need it.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:31 am to Choupique19
quote:sos affects ranking. ranking is a tie breaker. ties in standings are common.
I was unaware that there was a strength of factor segment to determining the SEC West representative in Atlanta
once again, even if ole miss beats an east team, lsu can still win the west by controlling their own destiny
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:32 am to inebr8ted tiger
Its always good for Ole Miss to lose. They are in the west and compete directly with us for the SEC. On the other hand, they were way way overrated. 4th in the AP my arse. Just like Alabama (who we really outplayed last year) the Tigers will stomp them. I was embarassed for Snead, Ole Miss AND South Car. Both teams looked sloppy. Say what you want about the Tigers early struggles, the Rebels and Gamecocks are not on our level. Neither should be in the top 20. And I'll take JJ or JL any day over Snead.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:32 am to medtiger
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So, you think an undefeated SEC champ is going to be left out of the NC game this year? Over who?
You got it
An undefeated Pack and Big 10 team.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:32 am to bfniii
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If LSU goes undefeated this year, they will have no problem getting to the NC game, regardless of opponent's records.
this is absolutely false
Sorry, but it's not. I really thought you knew better.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:33 am to medtiger
quote:you're talking after the fact. right now is not after the fact. ole miss losing is not the best possible scenario AT THIS TIME.
But what if LSU has 2 losses this year, but beats Ole Miss and Bama (which is much more likely than them being undefeated or with 1 loss)? Wouldn't it be nice for Ole Miss and Bama to also have a couple of losses, so that we win the tiebreaker against them?
we could some up with "what if's" all day
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:34 am to bfniii
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sos affects ranking. ranking is a tie breaker. ties in standings are common.
This tie breaker is pretty far down the list. The first time it was EVER used was last year with the TT, OU, UT situation.
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once again, even if ole miss beats an east team, lsu can still win the west by controlling their own destiny
So you're saying we're going to beat Alabama, Ole Miss, Auburn, Florida and Arkansas? I just can't see that happening. Not with this team.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:36 am to medtiger
quote:the best possible scenario is for lsu's opponents to win so that there is no doubt
So, you think an undefeated SEC champ is going to be left out of the NC game this year? Over who? An undefeated Penn St or Cal?
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:36 am to Cinci Tiger
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So, you think an undefeated SEC champ is going to be left out of the NC game this year? Over who?
You got it
An undefeated Pack and Big 10 team
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:37 am to AlxTgr
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quote:
If LSU goes undefeated this year, they will have no problem getting to the NC game, regardless of opponent's records.
this is absolutely false
Sorry, but it's not. I really thought you knew better.
You're naive
Posted on 9/25/09 at 10:38 am to bfniii
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hmm. the point is not sinking in. no, it's bad for lsu. lsu doesn't play south carolina, lsu does play ole miss. we want all our opponents to be as highly ranked as possible to strengthen lsu's body of work
For what? National Rankings? I have news for you. We don't win the SEC, it really won't matter where we're ranked.
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