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Posted on 6/8/10 at 6:29 am to TakingStock
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Rumor has it the Dodgers are trying to save money on draft picks by picking a player they know they can't sign in Zach Lee. I think Lee stays.
This just doesn't make sense.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 7:07 am to Adam4848
Why even sticky this crap I'm out of town for the week and work from 8am - 11pm every day and was hoping to check this thread for quick news...
Posted on 6/8/10 at 7:56 am to dgnx6
What are you talking about? All the news is current and in the first post.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 8:13 am to Hootie
quote:Actually, it does. The Astros would get a sandwich round pick next year if they are unable to sign their first rounder. It's a stretch, but certainly possible.
This just doesn't make sense
Posted on 6/8/10 at 8:56 am to ehidal1
There may be something to these rumors.
From Peter Gammons...
From Peter Gammons...
quote:
Gammons suggests there's no way the Dodgers will be able to sign Lee and suggests that the price tag starts at $3M.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:03 am to AstroTiger
Dodgers Article
LOS ANGELES -- The Dodgers, who have made Draft-pick signability a key prerequisite in recent years, made a surprising pick Monday in the first round of the First-Year Player Draft, selecting two-sport star Zachary Lee from McKinney (Texas) High School with the No. 28 pick overall.
Lee is a right-handed starting pitcher, but he is better known as one of the best high school quarterbacks in the nation (31 touchdown passes last year) who has the leverage of a commitment to attend and play both sports at Louisiana State.
The 6-foot-4, 195-pound Lee was considered to be a difficult sign going into the Draft and hardly a perfect fit for a franchise that supposedly has its eye on finances. He reportedly is seeking a bonus in excess of $3 million range, and if he doesn't sign, the Dodgers will be under fire for wasting a top pick.
"People can think what they want, he was the best talent available and I want to sign him, absolutely," said Logan White, assistant general manager of scouting. "I didn't take Zach to not sign him. You'll see as the summer goes along we'll make every effort to sign him, and I want to sign him. I know it won't be easy, but hopefully we'll get it done."
The Dodgers were unable to provide media access to Lee, which is very unusual for the club. But here is what Lee told his local McKinneyNews.net when he committed to LSU in February:
""I've always wanted to go to college," he said. "I think getting a degree is very vital to being successful in life and any time you can get a degree and play a sport at the same time, it's always going to be a benefit, especially if you love sports like me. To have it paid for is a huge accomplishment and I'm proud of myself."
The deadline for picks to sign is Monday, Aug. 16. The last time the Dodgers failed to sign their top pick was 2005, when they drafted but did not sign supplemental pick Luke Hochevar, who became the first overall pick by Kansas City the following year and is in the Royals' starting rotation.
The largest bonus the Dodgers have given a Draft pick is $2.3 million for Clayton Kershaw in 2006. Lee and Kershaw have the same advisers, Alan and Randy Hendricks from Houston. White said he had a preliminary conversation with Lee's representatives after making the selection.
Since taking over the Draft in 2002, White's first pick has been a pitcher eight of nine times, and a high school pitcher now six times. Two of those top high school picks -- Chad Billingsley and Kershaw -- are in the Dodgers' rotation.
"If he focuses on baseball, I think he can move quickly, like Kershaw and Billingsley," said White. "A lot will be made of the two sports, but as a pitcher, he has a real good arm and delivery, a plus breaking ball, he has a feel for a changeup, and when I saw him he was 90-92 [mph] with the fastball and up to 95. The ball comes out of his hand easily.
"The guy's a competitor, he's smart. Put it all together and we really couldn't pass him up. He's worth the risk of not signing. I like him that much."
Unlike many recent Dodgers top picks, the club did not hold a special workout for Lee. According to White, Lee was surprised to get the call.
"He certainly was surprised," White said. "They didn't have a feel for what we were going to do. It's part of the gamesmanship of the Draft."
Five of White's nine top picks have come from Texas. He said Lee's competitive nature reminds him of Nolan Ryan, while Lee's athleticism and feel for pitching reminds him of a young Roy Halladay.
LOS ANGELES -- The Dodgers, who have made Draft-pick signability a key prerequisite in recent years, made a surprising pick Monday in the first round of the First-Year Player Draft, selecting two-sport star Zachary Lee from McKinney (Texas) High School with the No. 28 pick overall.
Lee is a right-handed starting pitcher, but he is better known as one of the best high school quarterbacks in the nation (31 touchdown passes last year) who has the leverage of a commitment to attend and play both sports at Louisiana State.
The 6-foot-4, 195-pound Lee was considered to be a difficult sign going into the Draft and hardly a perfect fit for a franchise that supposedly has its eye on finances. He reportedly is seeking a bonus in excess of $3 million range, and if he doesn't sign, the Dodgers will be under fire for wasting a top pick.
"People can think what they want, he was the best talent available and I want to sign him, absolutely," said Logan White, assistant general manager of scouting. "I didn't take Zach to not sign him. You'll see as the summer goes along we'll make every effort to sign him, and I want to sign him. I know it won't be easy, but hopefully we'll get it done."
The Dodgers were unable to provide media access to Lee, which is very unusual for the club. But here is what Lee told his local McKinneyNews.net when he committed to LSU in February:
""I've always wanted to go to college," he said. "I think getting a degree is very vital to being successful in life and any time you can get a degree and play a sport at the same time, it's always going to be a benefit, especially if you love sports like me. To have it paid for is a huge accomplishment and I'm proud of myself."
The deadline for picks to sign is Monday, Aug. 16. The last time the Dodgers failed to sign their top pick was 2005, when they drafted but did not sign supplemental pick Luke Hochevar, who became the first overall pick by Kansas City the following year and is in the Royals' starting rotation.
The largest bonus the Dodgers have given a Draft pick is $2.3 million for Clayton Kershaw in 2006. Lee and Kershaw have the same advisers, Alan and Randy Hendricks from Houston. White said he had a preliminary conversation with Lee's representatives after making the selection.
Since taking over the Draft in 2002, White's first pick has been a pitcher eight of nine times, and a high school pitcher now six times. Two of those top high school picks -- Chad Billingsley and Kershaw -- are in the Dodgers' rotation.
"If he focuses on baseball, I think he can move quickly, like Kershaw and Billingsley," said White. "A lot will be made of the two sports, but as a pitcher, he has a real good arm and delivery, a plus breaking ball, he has a feel for a changeup, and when I saw him he was 90-92 [mph] with the fastball and up to 95. The ball comes out of his hand easily.
"The guy's a competitor, he's smart. Put it all together and we really couldn't pass him up. He's worth the risk of not signing. I like him that much."
Unlike many recent Dodgers top picks, the club did not hold a special workout for Lee. According to White, Lee was surprised to get the call.
"He certainly was surprised," White said. "They didn't have a feel for what we were going to do. It's part of the gamesmanship of the Draft."
Five of White's nine top picks have come from Texas. He said Lee's competitive nature reminds him of Nolan Ryan, while Lee's athleticism and feel for pitching reminds him of a young Roy Halladay.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:47 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
what times does the draft start today?
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:47 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
List of Agents
8. Delino Deshields Jr. (Houston Astros) – Unknown - Delino DeShields Jr. already has a goal to be in the Major Leagues in just 2 1/2 years, which may seem kind of lofty for a 17-year-old who just graduated from high school. But if the old man was able to do it, the competition begins.
28. Zach Lee (Los Angeles Dodgers) – Unknown – Committed to play football at LSU. Queue the signability discussion.
29. Cam Bedrosian (Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim) – ACES
39. Anthony Ranaudo (Boston Red Sox) – Boras Corp.
8. Delino Deshields Jr. (Houston Astros) – Unknown - Delino DeShields Jr. already has a goal to be in the Major Leagues in just 2 1/2 years, which may seem kind of lofty for a 17-year-old who just graduated from high school. But if the old man was able to do it, the competition begins.
28. Zach Lee (Los Angeles Dodgers) – Unknown – Committed to play football at LSU. Queue the signability discussion.
29. Cam Bedrosian (Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim) – ACES
39. Anthony Ranaudo (Boston Red Sox) – Boras Corp.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 9:56 am
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:58 am to TJG210
quote:11 AM, Central Daylight Time
what times does the draft start today?
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:26 am to LSURussian
Anthony Ranaudo...thank for playing.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 10:50 am to AlanRainman
Report: Dodgers assistant GM 'cautiously optimistic' club will sign McKinney's Zach Lee
10:45 AM CDT on Tuesday, June 8, 2010
From Staff Reports
Los Angeles Dodgers assistant general manager Logan White told the Los Angeles Times on Monday that he's "cautiously optimistic" the organization will sign McKinney's Zach Lee after selecting the Dallas-area two-sport star with the 28th overall pick in the MLB First-Year Player Draft.
"As the summer plays out, you'll see the effort will be made. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that we're going to get him to sign," White said, according to the report. "It's really going to be Zach's decision."
In the report, White denied the Dodgers selected Lee with no intentions of signing him simply to save money since the team has a track record of not offering eye-popping signing bonuses. The organization's ownership is also going through a bit of a rough patch as Frank and Jamie McCourt endure a much-publicized divorce.
"I understand the concern," White said. "I can only give you my word. I've always been straight up. I've always tried to take the best player."
According to MLB.com , the largest bonus the Dodgers have given a draft pick is $2.3 million. That offer went to former Highland Park pitching standout Clayton Kershaw in 2006. Various reports say Lee is asking anywhere from $3-5 million for a signing bonus.
A dual athlete at McKinney who has signed a letter of intent to play football at LSU, Lee had 11 victories, a 2.15 ERA and 90 strikeouts this baseball season. He still plans to participate in LSU's summer football workouts, according to a report on ESPN.com.
The deadline for draft picks to sign with their respective teams is Aug. 16.
10:45 AM CDT on Tuesday, June 8, 2010
From Staff Reports
Los Angeles Dodgers assistant general manager Logan White told the Los Angeles Times on Monday that he's "cautiously optimistic" the organization will sign McKinney's Zach Lee after selecting the Dallas-area two-sport star with the 28th overall pick in the MLB First-Year Player Draft.
"As the summer plays out, you'll see the effort will be made. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that we're going to get him to sign," White said, according to the report. "It's really going to be Zach's decision."
In the report, White denied the Dodgers selected Lee with no intentions of signing him simply to save money since the team has a track record of not offering eye-popping signing bonuses. The organization's ownership is also going through a bit of a rough patch as Frank and Jamie McCourt endure a much-publicized divorce.
"I understand the concern," White said. "I can only give you my word. I've always been straight up. I've always tried to take the best player."
According to MLB.com , the largest bonus the Dodgers have given a draft pick is $2.3 million. That offer went to former Highland Park pitching standout Clayton Kershaw in 2006. Various reports say Lee is asking anywhere from $3-5 million for a signing bonus.
A dual athlete at McKinney who has signed a letter of intent to play football at LSU, Lee had 11 victories, a 2.15 ERA and 90 strikeouts this baseball season. He still plans to participate in LSU's summer football workouts, according to a report on ESPN.com.
The deadline for draft picks to sign with their respective teams is Aug. 16.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:26 am to AstroTiger
Lee wants that college paid for but the Dodgers will give him money for college if it does not work out. It's in that agent's best interest to get him signed.
Ryan and Halladay comparisons - yeah that's worth going to SEC football with the potential for a career ending injury
Ryan and Halladay comparisons - yeah that's worth going to SEC football with the potential for a career ending injury
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:32 am to dutchtowntiger100
Zach Lee Video
Zach Lee - P
McKinney HS, Texas, Sr.
Birthdate: 9/13/1991
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 195 lbs.
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Scout's report filed: 4/13/10
Scouting Report
Fastball: Lee has touched 95 mph on the gun and generally sits in the 90-92 mph range.
Fastball movement: He has plus movement. Everything he throws has depth to it.
Slider: It's nice and short, a plus breaking ball thrown 79-81 mph.
Changeup: It's Major League average now and projects to be a plus pitch in the future. He's not afraid to throw it when behind in the count.
Control: He's got better command and feel for pitching than you expect a two-sport star to have.
Poise: Shows plus mound presence.
Physical Description: Also a top quarterback recruit, Lee is strong and athletic with a large frame. He's more developed in the lower half, and there's room for growth in his upper body.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Excellent athleticism to go along with great feel for pitching. Three above-average to plus pitches he can thrown for strikes.
Weaknesses: As an elite football recruit with a commitment to play two sports at LSU, some think he's unsignable.
Summary: With above-average to plus stuff across the board -- fastball, slider, changeup -- good command and tremendous athleticsm, Lee should be one of the high school arms being mentioned up close to the top of the Draft, or at least on a short list of top high school arms. If he's not, it's largely because of one thing: signability. As a quarterback recruit, he's committed to play two sports at LSU next year, and many think he's unsignable as a result. That said, there's bound to be a team with deep pockets that will take a shot at luring him away from the gridiron and life as a collegiate athlete.
Zach Lee - P
McKinney HS, Texas, Sr.
Birthdate: 9/13/1991
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 195 lbs.
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Scout's report filed: 4/13/10
Scouting Report
Fastball: Lee has touched 95 mph on the gun and generally sits in the 90-92 mph range.
Fastball movement: He has plus movement. Everything he throws has depth to it.
Slider: It's nice and short, a plus breaking ball thrown 79-81 mph.
Changeup: It's Major League average now and projects to be a plus pitch in the future. He's not afraid to throw it when behind in the count.
Control: He's got better command and feel for pitching than you expect a two-sport star to have.
Poise: Shows plus mound presence.
Physical Description: Also a top quarterback recruit, Lee is strong and athletic with a large frame. He's more developed in the lower half, and there's room for growth in his upper body.
Medical Update: Healthy.
Strengths: Excellent athleticism to go along with great feel for pitching. Three above-average to plus pitches he can thrown for strikes.
Weaknesses: As an elite football recruit with a commitment to play two sports at LSU, some think he's unsignable.
Summary: With above-average to plus stuff across the board -- fastball, slider, changeup -- good command and tremendous athleticsm, Lee should be one of the high school arms being mentioned up close to the top of the Draft, or at least on a short list of top high school arms. If he's not, it's largely because of one thing: signability. As a quarterback recruit, he's committed to play two sports at LSU next year, and many think he's unsignable as a result. That said, there's bound to be a team with deep pockets that will take a shot at luring him away from the gridiron and life as a collegiate athlete.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:44 am to AstroTiger
Round 2 in the books...no further damage (so far).
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:46 am to Nick Papagorgio
It's good to see no one got taken in round 2.
Is there a chance that we see Gibbs back? And if so, how far down would he have to go to start considering coming back?
Is there a chance that we see Gibbs back? And if so, how far down would he have to go to start considering coming back?
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:48 am to GeauxAggie972
If Gibbs goes in the top 5-6 rounds, he's gone. Not much upside to his returning. His stock probably isn't going to go up any further in the scouts' eyes.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:49 am to dutchtowntiger100
quote:
- yeah that's worth going to SEC football with the potential for a career ending injury
since that happens so much...
Posted on 6/8/10 at 11:53 am to Nick Papagorgio
Tennessee's catcher, Forsyth, goes in third round ahead of Gibbs.
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