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Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:35 pm to DBG
Good, I'm glad that the voters are aware of their power to change the rematch despite ESPN's propaganda that it is already decided
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:40 pm to DBG
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at least 1 voter is willing to entertain the notion of bumping osu next week
Oh, I have no doubt that some will do it. I just don't think enough. Matt will have to come in here and break it down, I just think it will be too many to count on. But I'd be fine with being completely wrong.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:44 pm to WikiTiger
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Do you honestly think that an 11-1 Alabama who didn't even win their division deserves to be ranked higher than an 11-1 Okie St. that will have won their BCS conference OUTRIGHT (the highest ranked BCS conference, I should add) AND has a tougher schedule and a higher computer ranking than Alabama?
You honestly think that looking at the two resumes of those teams that Alabama still deserves to be #2?
I think Alabama is a better team, would have gone 12-0 and won the Big 12 as well if they played OSU's schedule, and I would absolutely rank them #2.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:47 pm to TulaneTigerFan
ill be pulling for OSU to beat OU just to shatter the gumps world.
but also because id rather play the cowboys than the tide.
but also because id rather play the cowboys than the tide.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:51 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Good, I'm glad that the voters are aware of their power to change the rematch despite ESPN's propaganda that it is already decided
I'm interested to see what the coaches do. If I'm Mike Gundy, I put OSU at 2, maybe even at 1, and drop Bama way the frick down. I'd imagine other Big12 coaches will follow suit. Anyone have a list of the coaches voting this year?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:54 pm to The Easter Bunny
Found a list
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The board for the 2011 season: Gary Andersen, Utah State; David Bailiff, Rice; Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Tim Beckman, Toledo; Todd Berry, Louisiana-Monroe; Bret Bielema, Wisconsin; Art Briles, Baylor; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Gene Chizik, Auburn; Dave Christensen, Wyoming; Dave Clawson, Bowling Green; David Cutcliffe, Duke; Mark Dantonio, Michigan State; Sonny Dykes, Louisiana Tech; Jon Embree, Colorado; Larry Fedora, Southern Miss; James Franklin, Vanderbilt; Al Golden, Miami (Fla.), Jim Grobe, Wake Forest; Pat Hill, Fresno State; Brady Hoke, Michigan; John "Doc" Holliday, Marshall; Skip Holtz, South Florida; Mark Hudspeth, Louisiana-Lafayette; Rob Ianello, Akron; Pete Lembo, Ball State; Mike London, Virginia; Rocky Long, San Diego State; Dan McCarney, North Texas; Mike MacIntyre, San Jose State; Doug Marrone, Syracuse; Bronco Mendenhall, Brigham Young; Les Miles, LSU; Ken Niumatalolo, Navy; Tom O'Brien, N.C. State; Bo Pelini, Nebraska; Chris Petersen, Boise State; Gary Pinkel, Missouri; Larry Porter, Memphis; Jeff Quinn, Buffalo; Paul Rhoads, Iowa State; Mark Richt, Georgia; Mike Riley, Oregon State; Nick Saban, Alabama; Greg Schiano, Rutgers; David Shaw, Stanford; Frank Solich, Ohio; Steve Spurrier, South Carolina; Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Charlie Strong, Louisville; Kevin Sumlin, Houston; Jeff Tedford, California; Bob Toledo, Tulane; Tommy Tuberville, Texas Tech; Kyle Whittingham, Utah; Kevin Wilson, Indiana; Paul Wulff, Washington State; Ron Zook, Illinois.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:55 pm to The Easter Bunny
Apparently Okie is still 5th in the Coaches' poll
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:55 pm to The Easter Bunny
One of the big keys is to ensure that virtually no voters put Va Tech and Stanford above Ok State. That probably means Va Tech has to lose and Ok State has to win by so much that Stanford is obviously inferior.
If every voter put OSU at least #3 in their final ballot, they would only need 25% of voters to put them over Bama - that at least seems doable. If Stanford gets a handful of voters it goes up to 1/3 and if Va Tech wins it is 50% or more (that seems very, very unlikely)
If every voter put OSU at least #3 in their final ballot, they would only need 25% of voters to put them over Bama - that at least seems doable. If Stanford gets a handful of voters it goes up to 1/3 and if Va Tech wins it is 50% or more (that seems very, very unlikely)
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:08 pm to lsumatt
So we need okie state to at least get all of the # 3 votes? Kiss that goodbye. It will be bama.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:09 pm to lsumatt
I see a real possibility of Oregon being ahead of Stanford in the final poll after they win the Pac-12 Championship Game. They won the matchup Head 2 Head and won the conference. We all know the voters re-evaluate the body of work for the last poll. Add to the fact that their only out of conference loss will be to the unanimous number 1 team the first weekend of the season.
I also don't think it is a reach for some voters to put Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech, if both were to win their conferences, both ahead of Alabama.
I also don't think it is a reach for some voters to put Oklahoma State and Virginia Tech, if both were to win their conferences, both ahead of Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:11 pm to lsumatt
The coaches poll certainly doesnt look good...lots of love for Vtech and Stanford which is a little surprising
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:13 pm to Shankopotomus
That margin looking bigger and bigger between #2 and #3.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:14 pm to Shankopotomus
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:15 pm to Shankopotomus
Meh, Virginia Tech has to lose. We know that.
The important thing is that almost 10% of voters don't have Bama #2 - at least groundwork for the necessary 25-35%.
The important thing is that almost 10% of voters don't have Bama #2 - at least groundwork for the necessary 25-35%.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:21 pm to lsumatt
Bama has 1411 out of a possible 1416 second place votes, so either 5 of the 59 voters dropped them to #3 or one or two voters dropped them to #4
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:21 pm to dgtiger3
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so either 5 of the 59 voters dropped them to #3
Right. So close to 10% keeping them out of the #2 slot.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:22 pm to lsumatt
Right.
Today, Bama is 64 points behind LSU, so presumably 5 voters do not have Alabama at #2. Also, while OSU is #5, they are only 46 points away from being #3. Could be a close race.
Today, Bama is 64 points behind LSU, so presumably 5 voters do not have Alabama at #2. Also, while OSU is #5, they are only 46 points away from being #3. Could be a close race.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:24 pm to Tiger Phil
Coaches Poll Out.
I understand voters not being able to get past OSU losing to a 3 TD favorite. But shite, VT ACTUALLY DID lose by 3 TDs. Hardly seems right.
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Virginia Tech
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma State
6. Houston
7. Oregon
8. Boise State
9. Michigan State
10. Arkansas
I understand voters not being able to get past OSU losing to a 3 TD favorite. But shite, VT ACTUALLY DID lose by 3 TDs. Hardly seems right.
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Virginia Tech
4. Stanford
5. Oklahoma State
6. Houston
7. Oregon
8. Boise State
9. Michigan State
10. Arkansas
Posted on 11/27/11 at 1:25 pm to RollTideRockStar
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There's no region in the country that is going to say the SEC and Alabama is not a supreme #2.
What you're not taking into account, is that the last vote is not about who is the better team.
It's about who they want to see in the BCSNCG.
Alabama is undoubtedly the second best team.
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