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re: Of all the frames, this one seems most telling...(yet some still defending the call!!!??)

Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by JackVincennes
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:35 pm to
Is Tigerfoot (what a stupid fricking name) an unmitigated pussy?...... check.
Posted by JackVincennes
NOLA
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:36 pm to
I don’t even care about the hit at this point, you just come across as a total bitch.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:38 pm to
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Hands clearly at the chest area (not head) and he is intentionally Keeping his head behind his hands

This us 100% fact and all that should matter
Posted by Lsuchampnj
Member since Sep 2014
437 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:40 pm to
You entitled bama bitches will soon comprehend the true definition of a melt in a couple weeks - 1st with approximately 1 minute left in the half when DW40’s backup will have an implied “all clear” to demonstrate to Tua the real definition of targeting, then by DW40 himself repeatedly on Hurts within the full limits of the rule in Q3 and 4 .
Posted by SportTiger1
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:41 pm to
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o it wasn’t. There was no tackle made. It was illegal contact

So you can't touch the QB after the ball was thrown? Besides that wasn't the ruling anyway.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:50 pm to
White’s left hand initially made contact with Fitzgerald’s chest up under Fitzgerald’s tucked non throwing arm, so in this picture (in op) is probably when he is withdrawing it as qb is falling down even though it may appear in picture to be coming up around or from under face mask.

QB’s throwing hand hit white’s Face mask and then his non throwing hand later hits white’s helmet, but haven’t seen white’s hands hit QB’s neck or head area yet.

Fitzgerald ended up short arming it, started to whip right side around, and shift weight back and to his left to avoid shifting weight forward into throw and to try to avoid leaving chest wide open for direct hit. He was protecting himself with how he threw it and in doing so along with his throwing hand hitting white’s face mask helped to initiate any incidental face mask contact between the two after White’s face mask initially hit his right front shoulder and grazed up as QB going down.

I don’t think there is conspiracy against LSU with call. I just think it a bad call or at least a poorly implemented rule, and any future game suspension should be based after looking at video after the game separately from call in game and assuming player is innocent. I can’t believe in deciding to have an in game personal foul penalty, an in game suspension, and a future suspension that this hit was want they had in mind.
Posted by PDgirl
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:53 pm to
Should be called for targeting- should being the operative word here- Bama gets away with a lot- the refs will conveniently not see the hit.
Posted by Sackdogg
Livingston
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:56 pm to
Idiot...........Check.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:09 pm to
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The fricking hip is connected to the neck also.
As is all of the abdomen.
well shite, a new level of stupid has been attained.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:13 pm to
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So you can't touch the QB after the ball was thrown? Besides that wasn't the ruling anyway.
yes you can, just not around the head or neck area

It was part of the ruling.

Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:13 pm to
So a photo now encapsulates a sequence of events and is considered proof?
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3124 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:14 pm to
Apparently you did not see the play.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:14 pm to
Another poster that just ignores the rule.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:17 pm to
Okay, Matt. We get it. You alone understand, and everyone is wrong.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:22 pm to
It seems so. People keep talking about shite like inadvertently, tgat has no bearing on a call or non call.

They demonstrate their ignorance of the rule and then proclaim the rule wasn’t broken
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86685 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:29 pm to
There are 4 stipulations.

He didn’t launch. He didn’t lead with the crown. He didn’t crouch and thrust up. The ambiguity is with hitting the head or neck area and the subjectivity of forcible.

If you’re a logical person, you see White keep his head up and run throughout fitz with his arms out front to push him down without ever leaving his feet. Does his face mask get near or maybe even touch Fitz’s? Probably. So what? That’s not the rule. Nothing else was near his neck. It’s not targetting. Just about every free rusher that gets to the QB hits him in the same way. There was nothing unique about it.

You don’t have to play this game of pretending to be smarter than everyone. Because you’re not.
Posted by Spotswoode
Mount Rushmore
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:30 pm to
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You keep saying he went in high, and that is the problem. However, if he had lowered his head, that would have been targeting. You can't have it both ways.

Don’t be a child. If he hit him completely below the shoulders we would have it both ways. Hell, hit him in the knees. Stay away from the friggin head! How hard is that to understand.

I don’t think White’s should be targeting, and I do think the Bama LB WAS targeting, but don’t act like this is impossible.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:30 pm to
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photo now encapsulates a sequence of events and is considered proof?
huh? No the video does that, the proof is watching it, reading the rule and re watching. I was screaming bullshite last night, it appears I was wrong
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86685 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:32 pm to
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but don’t act like this is impossible.
It’s bad tackling on a rushing QB known for faking a pass. Leaving your feet to go low is how you miss QB’s like him.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:29 pm to
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He didn’t launch. He didn’t lead with the crown. He didn’t crouch and thrust up. The ambiguity is with hitting the head or neck area and the subjectivity of forcible.
ok. Our fans by an overwhelming margin are acting as if the contact up high to passer that had already thrown the ball just didn’t happen.

A player can get called with doing none of those things you listed. As White did. It isn’t a conspiracy, it is a marginal call that was legitimately made. I personally think it wasn’t correct, but by the rule it was.
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