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re: O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:57 am to sweetwaterbilly
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:57 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire.
And you would be 100% verifiably wrong. What a weird stance to take. It's like the people who have preemptively said they want Mainieri gone this year even if we win it all. I just don't get that line of thinking at all.
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:58 am to Laman1978
You 0 lovers sure throw words like deserve around loosely.
He was a bad hire.
People who bash the hire bash the AD who did it and the quality of the hire itself. Saying, "what do you want him to do, turn down the job?" shows you have the logical discussion skills of a 13 year old. Btw, it wasn't thrown in his lap as that poster implied. He schemed for it for months.
He had the advantage of throwing lots of money at Aranda.
He ran off Canada, who had more success against Bama than anyone wearing P&G in recent history.
He promoted his buddy after an "exhaustive" search nationwide for the best OC.
He really has been all over the map on what his offensive philosophy would be. Because he doesn't have one. Unless kneejerk job preservation is an offensive philosophy.
He was a bad hire.
People who bash the hire bash the AD who did it and the quality of the hire itself. Saying, "what do you want him to do, turn down the job?" shows you have the logical discussion skills of a 13 year old. Btw, it wasn't thrown in his lap as that poster implied. He schemed for it for months.
He had the advantage of throwing lots of money at Aranda.
He ran off Canada, who had more success against Bama than anyone wearing P&G in recent history.
He promoted his buddy after an "exhaustive" search nationwide for the best OC.
He really has been all over the map on what his offensive philosophy would be. Because he doesn't have one. Unless kneejerk job preservation is an offensive philosophy.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 9:58 am to The Pirate King
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The issue comes in when people let the fact that they didn’t want him hired to begin with affect their entire view of the program and him as a head coach. Confirmation bias.
Yea, there are certainly no facts like getting blasted by State and losing to Troy, followed up the next year by getting shut out by Bama at home again after running off an OC that actually had some success against them, coupled with two more losses that shouldn't really have happened.
Nope, everything is just perfect and there's no reason to doubt that 0 can get us over the hump and win the conference.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:00 am to clamdip
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clamdip
Example A of people with a personal grudge against Orgeron for no reason.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:01 am to Laman1978
I think o definitely deserves credit for trying to make changes.
My issue is that it feels kinda like he’s grasping blindly and doesn’t know how to idnetify coaches and offenses that he wants.
We’re year 3 and he’s finally seeing the offense he wanted? That’s concerning.
Now honestly, if it works it works. I dont Really care how we got there.
My issue is that it feels kinda like he’s grasping blindly and doesn’t know how to idnetify coaches and offenses that he wants.
We’re year 3 and he’s finally seeing the offense he wanted? That’s concerning.
Now honestly, if it works it works. I dont Really care how we got there.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:01 am to The Pirate King
quote:
Example A of people with a personal grudge against Orgeron for no reason.
By all means tell us where his post is wrong.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:02 am to clamdip
quote:That's not me. This statement just shows that you're not very intuitive. I now believe that you're foolish.
shows you have the logical discussion skills of a 13 year old.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:03 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Orgeron could win 10 championships here and I will still contest that it was a bad hire. Because it was. But I hope he continues to do well here.
So if O has more championships than any coach in CFB history you would say it was a bad hire? Yikes man.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:03 am to LNCHBOX
All O
All the time in your fricking pea brain
Hate on hater
All the time in your fricking pea brain
Hate on hater
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:04 am to p&g
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All O
All the time in your fricking pea brain
This is the first thread I've posted in about football in quite some time. Keep on with the weak arse attempts at insults though.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:04 am to Laman1978
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In name, Steve Ensminger, but Joe Brady is who I'm excited about.
I'm not saying that an assistant to a below average assistant can't single-handedly turn around an offense, but point to examples of this happening in college football, much less the SEC.
If this guy is that good, he should probably be the HC here in short order.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:04 am to SammyTiger
quote:Not really. Somewhere else, maybe, but he or anyone would have had to take a few years to change the offensive culture that's been in place here since the beginning of the Miles era.
We’re year 3 and he’s finally seeing the offense he wanted? That’s concerning.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:05 am to Laman1978
Regardless of your position on O, its not appropriate to judge his success primarily against the most obvious failures of Miles.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:06 am to Laman1978
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In name, Steve Ensminger, but Joe Brady is who I'm excited about.
So Ensminger will not actually be coordinating the offense, but will still be paid to?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:07 am to Laman1978
quote:You're excited about a guy you had never heard of until a few months ago, and has never proven that he can transform a college passing game?
Joe Brady is who I'm excited about.
He may turn out to be great, or could be an absolute bust. But I'd hold off on saying how great he will be for LSU. Last year the same people talked about how great Jerry was going to be for the passing game. Look how that turned out.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:08 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:08 am to Goldrush25
quote:All I can say is that I have tremendous faith in Joe Brady. If Sean Payton vouches for him (says he even learned a few things from him), then I'm sold. The only reason he's not the OC is because he hasn't had OC experience. I'd bet my left testicle that he'll replace Ensminger in less than two years though. He's an extremely bright offensive mind.
I'm not saying that an assistant to a below average assistant can't single-handedly turn around an offense, but point to examples of this happening in college football, much less the SEC.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:09 am to Laman1978
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He still deserves credit for the changes he's made over the last couple of years to remedy where we're weak
As in?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:09 am to ProjectP2294
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So Ensminger will not actually be coordinating the offense, but will still be paid to?
Brady has never been an OC before. Slinger is teaching him the other parts of being an OC to add to his knowledge of offense. If everything goes well, Brady will be OC here in the next few years.
I feel like this has been stated 897 times already.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:10 am to The Pirate King
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Brady has never been an OC before. Slinger is teaching him the other parts of being an OC to add to his knowledge of offense. If everything goes well, Brady will be OC here in the next few years.
Wait, so E is gonna be the OC for longer than just this year now?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 10:10 am to Laman1978
Teams switch to spread offenses all the time.
Its almost never a 3 year process.
Almost everyone of our players played in something like a spread in high school.
Its almost never a 3 year process.
Almost everyone of our players played in something like a spread in high school.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 10:11 am
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