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re: Nuss would make our offense more UNPREDICTABLE!!!!

Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:09 am to
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Apparently FSU didn't get their copy because the guy had like 400 yards of offense.


FSU held him scoreless until a garbage TD in 2nd half. Looks like they got a copy and used it to perfection. Object of the game is to points on the board not rack up yards.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:10 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5034 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:12 am to
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Not how that works
Conveniently for you of course.


You're cherry picking data to support your narrative. Even with said, drops we threw for 350 yards. So you take away a play that actually happened to support your narrative but brush off the evidence that doesn't support your narrative. But yeah, no bias at all.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5034 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:13 am to
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FSU held him scoreless



My point in a nutshell. WR drops a potential touchdown pass but FSU held JD scoreless. You're just married to a narrative and not applying any context.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1429 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:15 am to
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My point in a nutshell. WR drops a potential touchdown pass but FSU held JD scoreless. You're just married to a narrative and not applying any context.


It’s no narrative. it’s factual. Daniels has been blown out three of his last four starts.
He looked absolutely pitiful against Arkansas and Texas A&M. These two teams had two of the worst past defenses in college football. He has shown no improvement. He is the same quarterback as he was in game one last year. Name one area in which he has improved.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58790 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:16 am to
How ironic that you’re talking about things that didn’t happen while I’m simply pointing out the numbers during the game before it was academically over. If you wanted to actually be honest about the Thomas Drop the ball was late and under thrown so since we’re playing “what if” had the QB executed the play correctly that’s a TD and the drop doesn’t happen.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5034 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:18 am to
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If you wanted to actually be honest about the Thomas Drop the ball was late and under thrown so since we’re playing “what if” had the QB executed the play correctly that’s a TD and the drop doesn’t happen.



Yeah, and Travis threw a ball at Wilson's knee's and he managed to catch it. The ball hit thomas between the 1 and the 1. He has to catch that.





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How ironic that you’re talking about things that didn’t happen while I’m simply pointing out the numbers during the game before it was academically over.



If marcus williams doesn't whiff on Diggs, the Saints win that game. Did that tackle happen? No it didn't. But we can be certain that if he makes a simple play, it does change the game. Sometimes in football, we can point out basic things that absolutely should happen even if they didnt.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58790 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:24 am to
You’re the one introducing narrative into the conversation. I’m just showing that when you do it you open up the counters to your excuses.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5034 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:27 am to
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You’re the one introducing narrative into the conversation. I’m just showing that when you do it you open up the counters to your excuses.




Who's making excuses? Excuses for what? For the loss? I've never excused the loss. Have I said that Daniels was perfect? Nope. I've simply pointed out that it's hard for me to shite on Daniels for the offense stalling when he delivered passes that were extremely catchable and they got dropped. It's not like he was sailing them over guys heads and they weren't even close. If the QB throws a ball, especially on third down, and the receiver gets hit with it in the numbers past the sticks, that's not on the QB.


I haven't argued that Daniels was perfect at all. I'm simply saying it's missing context to say that FSU shut down Daniels in the 2nd half when the pieces around him didn't make the plays when they were very much make-able plays.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
33982 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:34 am to
My thing is: I don’t want to send Nuss in there if the O line is suspect, and it is. It would be bad for everyone including Nuss. IMO that was a big reason for JD getting the start last season and maybe it’s improved but didn’t look great last Sunday. Nuss will shine behind a solid O line. Behind a not so solid O line I think it would be disastrous. And that’s no hit on Nuss just obvious with his style.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12740 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:38 am to
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Pair that with soft as charmin Miles Frazier, and you have no run game
Replace SAC Frazier with Lunsford at RG or move Jones to RG and start Heard at RT.

Also start Hernandez at Center.

I'd try that combo for the entire Grambling game and see how it works out. (I'd also like to see that combo with Nussmeier playing at least 3 quarters)

Let's see if it happens or if HC/OC Stubborness and Ego win out.......
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58790 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:43 am to
What you’re saying is everyone else needs to be perfect except for Daniels. Drops happen, they happened to FSU. Daniels missed more than 2 passes, hell he missed open guys for scores but those are excused while the drops aren’t. The context can’t just flow one way or it isn’t context it’s just bias.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:50 am to
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5772 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:53 am to
We need our RBs to be able to run the ball to not be predictable regardless of who the QB is.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
33982 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:59 am to
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Not when he looks at only one receiver route per pass play.

I could be wrong but I believe that is a false or outdated narrative at this point, for the most part.
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
783 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:11 am to
So practicing with a team and playing some snaps while you are winning by a huge margin doesn't get a player experience?
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:24 am to
Armchair QBs unite!
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5772 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:33 am to
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Armchair QBs unite!


Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30807 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:09 am to
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JD5 is the better QB.



not sure about that. JD doesn't have a quick release and doesn't get the ball out quick enough to receivers in space. that's why everything looks so bogged down. if you have a QB who can quickly get rid of the ball accurately, it neutralizes a good defensive front. can nuss do those things? I'd love to find out
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4820 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:13 am to
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Nuss would make our offense more UNPREDICTABLE!!!!



This. Teams (starting at the end of last year) started stacking the box and daring JD to throw... they've neutered our offense by simply stacking the box.


Scheme sucks, but the right passer could help. WE are not a come from behind team currently
Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2015
1308 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:17 am to
It’ll be downfield passes , limited mobility , more interceptions , very predictable
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