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Nuss vs. JD5 year 1 comparison
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:01 pm
I'm not going to lie. Nuss has gone into a tailspin and not sure he'll make it out.
BUT, I distinctly remember how awful JD5 was that first year here at times. He ran well but do you remember how infuriating it was that he couldn't/wouldn't throw downfield? And I remember thinking, "Next year will probably suck bc that kind of problem doesn't usually ever get solved in QBs."
And he worked his arse off over spring and summer, came back and the rest is Heisman history.
Point being: Most of us thought Jayden was pretty lousy after his first year at the helm. And I think there is a CHANCE that Nuss could come back next year and do a lot better. We'll see.
BUT, I distinctly remember how awful JD5 was that first year here at times. He ran well but do you remember how infuriating it was that he couldn't/wouldn't throw downfield? And I remember thinking, "Next year will probably suck bc that kind of problem doesn't usually ever get solved in QBs."
And he worked his arse off over spring and summer, came back and the rest is Heisman history.
Point being: Most of us thought Jayden was pretty lousy after his first year at the helm. And I think there is a CHANCE that Nuss could come back next year and do a lot better. We'll see.
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:03 pm to NewportTiger
That was JD5 first year in the program. Same with the Burrow year 1 comparisons.
This isn’t year 1 for Nuss.
This isn’t year 1 for Nuss.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:05 pm to Xenophon
on the other hand, JD5 had three starting seasons under his belt. I get this is kind of like putting lip stick on a pig but we can only hope it improves
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:05 pm to NewportTiger
JD5 was frustrating because he was overly hesitant to throw downfield.
Nuss is frustrating because he’s unwilling to take easy completions and continues to put the ball in harms way by making bad reads.
It’s the complete opposite from JD.
Nuss is frustrating because he’s unwilling to take easy completions and continues to put the ball in harms way by making bad reads.
It’s the complete opposite from JD.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:05 pm to Xenophon
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That was JD5 first year in the program. Same with the Burrow year 1 comparisons.
This isn’t year 1 for Nuss.
That was JD's 4th year as a starter, and he had 2 first round wide receivers to throw to.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:07 pm to NewportTiger
Yes it was frustrating when JD wouldn’t throw the ball. But he was at a new school with new teammates and I just don’t think he trusted his receivers enough. Trust was built and year 2 he let that thing fly.
Nuss issues are completely different. It is very apparent that Nuss cannot read a defense, he can not read the field (doesn’t see wide open receivers), he panics a lot, and he throws his mechanics out the window on a regular basis (not setting his feet before throwing the ball).
I don’t think that is as easy to fix as trusting your receivers.
Nuss issues are completely different. It is very apparent that Nuss cannot read a defense, he can not read the field (doesn’t see wide open receivers), he panics a lot, and he throws his mechanics out the window on a regular basis (not setting his feet before throwing the ball).
I don’t think that is as easy to fix as trusting your receivers.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:07 pm to NewportTiger
But go back and watch the games at Arizona State. He was throwing the ball deep all the time.
He had it, he just had to get the timing going
Garret ain’t got it. He has been back-pedaling and throwing pick-six like passes since he first entered a game 2 years ago. I remember that shite.
He had it, he just had to get the timing going
Garret ain’t got it. He has been back-pedaling and throwing pick-six like passes since he first entered a game 2 years ago. I remember that shite.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:09 pm to NewportTiger
JD had some frustrating moments year 1.
But you know what he didn’t do?
Turn the ball over.
He was a little timid passing but he didn’t make stupid mistakes with the ball.
And that’s why we made it to Atlanta despite some of those shortcomings.
But you know what he didn’t do?
Turn the ball over.
He was a little timid passing but he didn’t make stupid mistakes with the ball.
And that’s why we made it to Atlanta despite some of those shortcomings.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:09 pm to Bayoubengal205
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It is very apparent that Nuss cannot read a defense,
I agree with this and I don’t think it can be fixed with his dad being a coach. Maybe the game slows down for him, but I think it’s just a personality trait. Most of his picks are because of poor reads as opposed to ball placement.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:11 pm to Jake009
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Nuss is frustrating because he’s unwilling to take easy completions and continues to put the ball in harms way by making bad reads.
Exactly. Nuss has horrendous footwork. Always throwing off the back foot. Tries to fit the ball in to windows that are barely open when there’s easier yardage to take
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:11 pm to nugget
At this point, if we actually sign Underwood, I’d rather start him and take the losses that go with it than suffer another year of Nuss being an interception factory.
At lease Underwood has off the chart potential.
At lease Underwood has off the chart potential.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:13 pm to Bayoubengal205
A good running game would have been Nuss's best friend. He's had it all pretty much on his shoulders. Plus first year starting. JD had much more experience but still had a rough first year starting out. If Nuss had a good run game, I think in time he'd be a lot better.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:15 pm to wadewilson
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That was JD's 4th year as a starter,
I knew this was going to come up.
Jayden as a TRUE FRESHMAN in a power 5 conference
61% completion percentage 17 TDs 2INTs
With a higher yards per attempt than nussmeir
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:20 pm to Adam Banks
It is true JD didn't turn it over, but he also used his legs to bail himself out. Unfortunately, Nuss doesn't have that. I
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:20 pm to Xenophon
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That was JD5 first year in the program. Same with the Burrow year 1 comparisons.
This isn’t year 1 for Nuss.
It's year one with Sloan as OC. It's year 1 as a starter. And since no one in their right mind expected Nuss to replace Jayden's running so the scheme had to change some. It's also year 1 with no Chase or Jets or Nabers or BTJ at WR.
If you want a direct comparison, how many pts did we score vs Aggie in '22 vs how many in '24? And that was G12 in '22 and Jayden's 30+ start.
Nuss has played really bad the last 6 quarters. But you're comparing apples and oranges with Joe and Jayden.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:24 pm to AlwysATgr
This is definitely year one for Nuss....he was carrying the clipboard.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:50 pm to NewportTiger
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BUT, I distinctly remember how awful JD5 was that first year here at times.
Except he wasn’t. I do remember many people here holding him to an unreasonably high standard as they yelled for the Nuss Bus. That hasn’t aged well. JD had some things to improve and he had some below average games, but he threw 3 ints in 14 games. He protected the ball like a QB should. JD threw 7 Ints in 26 games as a Tiger. Nuss has thrown 9 interceptions in his past 5 games.
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Most of us thought Jayden was pretty lousy after his first year at the helm.
And many of us here knew he wasn’t lousy. There were idiots here still calling him to be pulled in the third game last season. JD’s first year here was one of the most productive seasons an LSU QB had up to that point.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:52 pm to NewportTiger
Here’s the difference.
JD had pride, determination, and great work ethic.
Nuss seems entitled, arrogant and going through the motions.
Maybe Nuss will take a look in the mirror and realize talent alone doesn’t get you very far. Even the top tier talent (which isn’t even him). You’ve got to work your arse off, and strive to improve.
JD had pride, determination, and great work ethic.
Nuss seems entitled, arrogant and going through the motions.
Maybe Nuss will take a look in the mirror and realize talent alone doesn’t get you very far. Even the top tier talent (which isn’t even him). You’ve got to work your arse off, and strive to improve.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:54 pm to NewportTiger
JD5 also beat Bama his first year so get outta here with these bull shite comparisons. Nuss isn’t in the same stratosphere.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:58 pm to TigerDeBaiter
JD, same as with Burrow, got better as the season went on. Nuss is getting worse. Making some mistakes he made as a Freshman. Obvious there is no fixing these issues as this is just who he is! After the season let him that is he not part of future plans. Thank him for his contribution and send him on his way. Give Underwood the Keys on Day 1.
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