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re: Nuss is the best college QB in America next year but the defense is what matters.

Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
967 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:40 am to
Great point. Need experienced guys too. Every year we lose 5-10 defensive back ups who would be seeing playing time in their 3rd or 4th years that we just can’t keep around for whatever reason. It’s a killer. If you look at these playoff teams, they have a ton of experience, and we can’t keep more than a handful of starters for 4 years. Needs to change.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285286 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:40 am to
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Nuss is the best college QB in America


Just Among Returning SEC QB:

YPA- 6th
QB Rating- 4th
Adjusted Comp %- 4th
ADOT- 7th
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283441 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:43 am to
They all have swarming, attacking defenses.

Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16679 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:49 am to
Agreed, we did improve significantly last year from 2023 defensively but the cold, hard truth was the talent on defense both in 2023 and 2024 was below the standard of what is should be here. I think outside of safety to this point, we've taken steps in recruiting and transfer portal to get back much closer to that standard on defense in the upcoming year.

If fact I think if we add a quality safety before it's done, we'll have the talent to be a top-40 or better defense, and if Nuss takes the step we hope he will that could make for a pretty good year next year.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by jmaclsu
Amite, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
756 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:51 am to
In fairness this years defense lost their best DL to start the season, later lost Perkins for the season, and best db Alexander was injured for some of the season. All while Baker was changing the culture and playing with limited roster. I expect a huge jump for the defense in 2025.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15888 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:04 am to
They all have solid running games as well. Can't constantly lean on the pass in short yardage and the red zone.
Posted by Zamperini2014
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2018
773 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:06 am to
LSU could not run the ball or play defense this year. It’s like I was looking at a big 12 team
Posted by WaltTheWizard
Member since Dec 2021
130 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 8:07 am to
Needs to continue improving his decision making. Sometimes he attempts risky or unwarranted throws that would be better running it or throwing it away. If he improves his metal decisions, he will have a great season (better than this one).
Posted by Htowntiger90
Houston
Member since Dec 2018
970 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:54 am to
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All of the semifinal teams were able to run the ball too.

This was what I saw too - watching the semifinals you saw offensive linemen that could actually block in the run game. I think the D will keep improving.

Yes, Nuss has a better arm than these other 4 QBs. Our skill position guys are a level above Penn State and ND. Get an O-line that can move the LOS and create room in the run game and we take a major step forward.

This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 9:55 am
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
6059 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 11:21 am to
Manning will likely lead the pack of QB’s. Nuss in top ten.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16354 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 11:38 am to
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All of the semifinal teams were able to run the ball too. We can’t just rely on Nuss throwing 40+ times


Nuss needs to learn and be willing to run the ball when those opportunities are there for him to do so. That will open up the offense if defenses have to start accounting for him scrambling out of the pocket or keying him on read options.
Posted by superwolf
Member since Dec 2006
953 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 11:42 am to
We don't have a running game bc the numbers don't add up. If Nuss is no threat to run, which he is now then you no chance to be successful running. It is 11 defenders vs 10 offensive players.
Posted by Tblock
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2021
1470 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 11:43 am to
I think nuss is still the least of the problems with LSU. Most likely, he's one of the best 5 qb's in the country next year and our ability to play defense, specifically on the back end will determine how far we go. Yea, we need to run the ball better, but i bet Nuss works that in a bit next season, and hopefully we get some push from the oline.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
1685 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Nuss is the best college QB in America next year


lol no
Posted by FizzyPop
350 posts
Member since Jun 2024
635 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Nuss is the best college QB in America next year


That remains to be seen. If they continue to call a zone read then Nuss has to show a higher IQ and feel for when to tuck it, hit the edge then slide for the 1st. Downvote me all you want, but any poster that truly knows the game could see he has low QB awareness on riding the mesh point and constantly giving up with a zone dive that gets blown the F up. These are drive killers and in the USC 1st game of the year, it was a game killer.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34126 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 12:50 pm to
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We don't have a running game bc the numbers don't add up. If Nuss is no threat to run, which he is now then you no chance to be successful running. It is 11 defenders vs 10 offensive players.
Wait, are you seriously saying that the reason we couldn't run the ball was because defenses loaded the box and Nuss didn't threaten them with his legs?

Did you watch the games at all?


It's like you're trying to argue a point instead of what actually happened.

Nuss is literally breaking record with one of the worst rushing offenses LSU has had in decades and your response is - he needs to run more?

If you're dumb enough to think Nuss not running is why we're not in the playoffs then you're too dumb to argue with:

vs USC we gave up 378 yards to Miller Moss. Nuss played very good in this game.


vs A&M we gave up 31 point in one half to a true freshman QB who had 2 pass attempts. By the way- Tommy Moffit showed up in this game, which is why we got bullied in the trenches.

Their running game - 43 Carries 256 yards
Our running game - 19 Carries 27 yards

That's insane


Vs Bama he did play like shite but 2019 Joe Burrow on LSUs team that day and we still lose with giving up 48 Carrie's for 311 yard and 6 TDs. Again, Nuss played like shite in this game but you cannot be that dominated on the ground and then be mad about the QB not running


Then look at Florida- Lagway was playing on one leg and was zero threat to run and lit us up. Nuss also didn't play well in this game. You could blame this loss on Nuss but your logic of the QB run falls apart because Lagway was absolutely no threat at all to run.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57907 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 1:55 pm to
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Name the better QB.

the guy we are playing week one

nuss is good but lost us multiple games with (multiple) horrific INTs this year
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34126 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:11 pm to
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nuss is good but lost us multiple games with (multiple) horrific INTs this year
Which games did Nuss lose us?

USC
A&M
Bama
Florida

He had multiple interceptions only vs Bama and A&M- please tell me that you blame those loses on him?

Hey how'd Cade Klubnik play against UGA and South Carolina? Surely he didn't actually lose his team multiple games huh?

fricking fair weather fans see Cade light up SMU and think he's a stud now.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20041 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:18 pm to
Defense cannot stop the run or the pass. Offense cannot run the ball (JD covered up a lot). STs still suck. Multi-year problems for $100 million.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2323 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:00 am to
They all have swarming, attacking defenses.
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And they tackle well.
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