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Not calling a timeout to set up a play?

Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:31 am
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22742 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:31 am
I’m pumped for the big win. But when you watch the sequence back, it was some great hustle by LSU and some luck.

Does it concern anybody that our coach wouldn’t want to setup a play for a better shot than what was attempted and blocked?

Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
1681 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:31 am to
He said he didn’t want to give Kentucky time to set their defense
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9026 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:33 am to
If it worked, it was genius. No guarantee a timeout play would've worked either. Driving to get a foul call wasn't the craziest idea.
Posted by Snarfin
Member since Dec 2023
12 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:33 am to
In the post game interview he told the reporter he wished he had called a time out to do just that.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34514 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:33 am to
Nope. I like that we just ran at 'em.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:33 am to
quote:

Does it concern anybody that our coach wouldn’t want to setup a play for a better shot than what was attempted and blocked?


Nope. He said in the press conference he didn't want to allow them to have a set drawn up for the final play.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 5:34 am
Posted by Blast and Laugh
Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1858 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:35 am to
The media asked him that very question. His answer was pretty good too. He basically said he could have called the time out to set a play, but Kentucky would have had a chance to set up a defense, and he rolled the dice that it would be chaotic, and it was.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22742 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:41 am to
So our coach was scared to design a play because the other team gets to set a defense.

Ouch.

I’m extremely encouraged by our improvement but this aspect is very concerning to me. 3-4 seconds on the clock and I like chaos. We inbounded with 10 seconds and got to our side of the court with 8.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 5:45 am
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:43 am to
quote:

So our coach was scared to design a play because the other team gets to set a defense.

Ouch.


No lol. He said he discussed the final play in the previous timeout.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22742 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:49 am to
And you’re happy with the plan?

If that sequence doesn’t end with the block landing in our players hands and tear dropping it to the lane…..the rant would want McMahons head on a plate.

The Fighting tigers pulled through last night but I was discouraged in that last sequence. We were due for a win like that but the reality is that we need to have confidence in execution of our scheme to win the games we need down the stretch.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 5:53 am
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64566 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:53 am to
I agree with coach on this. He went with game flow to that point being the best option.

Jordan saved the ball and Ward put it in.

Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:54 am to
quote:

And you’re happy with the plan?

If that sequence doesn’t end with the block landing in our players hands and tear dropping it to the lane…..the rant would want McMahons head on a plate.

The Fighting tigers pulled through last night but I was discouraged in that last sequence.


It was a close game for a long stretch. One or two possesion game. If you discuss in a previous timeout what to do on the last possession why do you need to call another timeout?

Look at what happened to UK. Coach Cal called his last timeout with 21 seconds left to draw up a play designed to get a quick shot off which allowed us to win the game instead of draining the clock. It goes both ways.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7751 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:00 am to
I liked McMahon’s idea of not letting Kentucky set its defense. Wright lost the ball as he was going up. McMahon could have called timeout, drawn up the play just like that and Wright still could have lost the ball. Sometimes, a plan comes down to execution and if the execution is flawed, it sometimes doesn’t matter how good the plan was.

Wright came up with his own plan on the fly. They won the game. Right now, that’s all that matters.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 6:03 am
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8419 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:01 am to
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So our coach was scared to design a play because the other team gets to set a defense. Ouch. I’m extremely encouraged by our improvement but this aspect is very concerning to me. 3-4 seconds on the clock and I like chaos. We inbounded with 10 seconds and got to our side of the court with 8.


Learn ball, there are plenty of coaches who let their guys play without a timeout in late game situations

The initial shot was ugly, but Kentucky losing their man in a ORB box out situation happens in part because they aren’t reminded in the huddle by Cal

Pretty sure we didn’t call a TO against South Carolina and it worked to perfection as well
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3254 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:01 am to
I like how the coach gets no credit for having the team in a position to win on the last possession.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22742 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:01 am to
I think his trigger man just pulled too early and he trusted his defense. He was right as they had 3 men camping in the lane when all we did was dribble penetrate. We were fortunate the ball bounced our way and our guy made a heady pass.

This doesn’t go both ways here. Cal called a timeout and set up a play.

His defense was also prepared for our play.

Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22742 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:03 am to
Nobody is not giving McMahon credit here. I’m just disappointed in the sequence as it relates to tournament time.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:04 am to
quote:

I think his trigger man just pulled too early and he trusted his defense. He was right as they had 3 men camping in the lane when all we did was dribble penetrate. We were fortunate the ball bounced our way and our guy made a heady pass.

This doesn’t go both ways here. Cal called a timeout and set up a play.

His defense was also prepared for our play.


Please go watch both McMahon and Cal's press conferences. A lot of your questions would be answered by spending 15 minutes watching 2 youtube videos.

You will find out that it was designed for Kentucky's player to shoot that quickly (and McMahon agreed with that decision).
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28610 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:05 am to
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L S Usetheforce


STDDB
Posted by slawman
pearl, ms
Member since Jun 2005
456 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 6:05 am to
Tell us you’ve never coached without telling us you never coached #clueless
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