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Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:12 am to Angry LLAMA
anyone have a solid update on what the story actually was? Did the really side by side compare stats?
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:12 am to BobBoucher
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This is a forum right? You almost had me. For a second i thought i might have posted my opinion in a place where opinions are strictly forbidden.
Can you give me one reason why your opinion on who should start should be more valid than the coaches?
"Move to China"? Really?
You're free to question undefeated, highly paid, professional coaches on the matter, but I'm not free to question you?
You would exile those with different opinions than you and you want ME to move to China?
Hypocritical punk.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:13 am to ScoopAndScore
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umm, an opening play 80 yd TD run certainly doesn't help us win.
I'd trade that ONE frickING PLAY ON THE SEASON....
For consistent drives that would either pin the other team deep, give our defense time to rest, or even have the ability to score points.
FAIL #2
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:14 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Hypocritical punk.
Nah, what's hypocritical is your attack of his opinion by use of your own...as if your opinion is somehow better.
That's hypocritical, and sad.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:15 am to CptBengal
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umm, an opening play 80 yd TD run certainly doesn't help us win.
even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:15 am to MoreOrLes
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I ok with both playing but why not start Lee and play JJ during the games?
If they are determined to play both guys then they pretty much have to start JJ. He does not appear to have the self-confidence and maturity of JL. If and when Lee does start I wouldn't look for JJ to be more than the occasional short-yardage or goal-line option as RP was in '07. This btw is what I would like to see happen.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:17 am to CptBengal
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FAIL #2
lol
So having a part time QB who can run for an 80 yd TD is not a good thing to have? You'd rather defenses not even have to think about that when preparing to play LSU? Just go with JLee 100%?
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For consistent drives that would either pin the other team deep, give our defense time to rest, or even have the ability to score points.
And you have seen a current QB on LSU's roster do this consistently over many games?? How quickly we forget how bad both QBs have been historically.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:19 am to ScoopAndScore
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So having a part time QB who can run for an 80 yd TD is not a good thing to have? You'd rather defenses not even have to think about that when preparing to play LSU? Just go with JLee 100%?
Yes, because he gives us the best chance to win, and we dont have to worry about all the turnovers, wasted time outs, wrong plays run, etc.
Trading off a poor player occasionally doing ANYTHING of value that you people celebrate, for a player who has consistently been good this year, even in high pressure situations, playing 100 percent of the snaps and getting even more comfortable.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:19 am to ScoopAndScore
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lol
So having a part time QB who can run for an 80 yd TD is not a good thing to have? You'd rather defenses not even have to think about that when preparing to play LSU? Just go with JLee 100%?
No, but giving the 107/108 th ranked qb in FBS the majority of the offensive possessions is fricking insane.
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And you have seen a current QB on LSU's roster do this consistently over many games?? How quickly we forget how bad both QBs have been historically.
Historically....WHO CARES.
JL is playing lights out. JJ is a turnover machine who can't move the offense THIS SEASON.
Let me repeat that for you...THIS SEASON.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:20 am to jackson123
Bottom line:
JLee was the starter (all we had because of circumstances) so he struggled but still pu up solid #'s except for picks
JJ starts and does decent then goes on a steady decline
JJ and JL share time. JJ STILL completely lost even after several weeks of concentrating on goal line situations, he still ran teh wrong play against FLA but got lucky and scored BUT HE RAN THE WRONG PLAY AFTER 3 YEARS AND EXTENSIVE PRACTICE ON GOAL LINE SITUATIONS!! JL comes in to save the day for LSU for the 3rd time this year and proves he is more accurate, a better leader, more knowledgable of teh playbook, and protects the ball better and the team rallies around HIM!
SO Miles names his starter.....JJ????? WTF
Yes, this is national headlines because it is the latest in a steady stream of idiotic situations that come from this teams coach. It is not if, but when is this going to catch up with LSU and there is no doubt LM is doing these things to draw attention to himself. He alone is keeping us down in the polls which can hurt us in the long run.
This decision has NO LOGIC except for people reaching to blame J Lee by saying he needs this to keep the pressure off!
KEEP THE PRESSURE OFF? fricking seriously are you wanting me to believe he hasn't play GREAT with the pressure of the world watching him this year in the MOST CRUCIAL situations thinkable! On the road, at FLorida, needing a score, no timeouts, etc...
Give me a break please, J Lee doesn't need that weak link starting for him to take any pressure off. He has lived under extreme pressure for 2 years waiting for his time to come.
JLee was the starter (all we had because of circumstances) so he struggled but still pu up solid #'s except for picks
JJ starts and does decent then goes on a steady decline
JJ and JL share time. JJ STILL completely lost even after several weeks of concentrating on goal line situations, he still ran teh wrong play against FLA but got lucky and scored BUT HE RAN THE WRONG PLAY AFTER 3 YEARS AND EXTENSIVE PRACTICE ON GOAL LINE SITUATIONS!! JL comes in to save the day for LSU for the 3rd time this year and proves he is more accurate, a better leader, more knowledgable of teh playbook, and protects the ball better and the team rallies around HIM!
SO Miles names his starter.....JJ????? WTF
Yes, this is national headlines because it is the latest in a steady stream of idiotic situations that come from this teams coach. It is not if, but when is this going to catch up with LSU and there is no doubt LM is doing these things to draw attention to himself. He alone is keeping us down in the polls which can hurt us in the long run.
This decision has NO LOGIC except for people reaching to blame J Lee by saying he needs this to keep the pressure off!
KEEP THE PRESSURE OFF? fricking seriously are you wanting me to believe he hasn't play GREAT with the pressure of the world watching him this year in the MOST CRUCIAL situations thinkable! On the road, at FLorida, needing a score, no timeouts, etc...
Give me a break please, J Lee doesn't need that weak link starting for him to take any pressure off. He has lived under extreme pressure for 2 years waiting for his time to come.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:22 am to ScoopAndScore
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So having a part time QB who can run for an 80 yd TD is not a good thing to have?
You think that will actually ever happen again?
I have seen DTs run 80 yards for a TD after picking up a fumble.. Does that mean that those guys are threats to score 80 yard TDs at any given time as well?
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:23 am to ScoopAndScore
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How quickly we forget how bad both QBs have been historically.
It's pretty obvious that Lee has improved. It's not unusual for QBs to get better between their freshman and junior seasons.
I like JJ playing occasionally and even starting, as I think it helps Lee to see things from the sidelines some. It also takes the pressure off of him. I just think Lee should be getting 80% of the snaps.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:25 am to CptBengal
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No, but giving the 107/108 th ranked qb in FBS the majority of the offensive possessions is fricking insane.
Totally agree, and like I've said before, I expect this to change going forward. But I'm ok with JJ having a change of pace/situational role. And I don't care who "starts" the opening drive.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:26 am to pfunkTiger
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Les can't start Lee and let the offense explode. At some point Les needs to show that he can coach a winner despite the offense. This allows him to get Crowton the frick out of town while keeping his own job safe. If the offense explodes Miles looks good as coach but looks like a buffoon if he fires Crowton.
So Les needs to win close with average offense to justify the coming ax for Crowton.
Don't you see the 'want' in that logic?
No, but I do see the Fail in it.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:26 am to ScoopAndScore
Here is a FACT
Jefferson has ONLY ran for 231 yards which includes 1 83 yard run. On 53 carries..
So 4 yards a carry including his one never again to happen 83 yard run.. Take out that fluke and you see the true JJ running the ball.. 52 carries for 148 yards a whopping 2.8 yards per carry.
Throwing the ball he has 2TDs and 7 Ints which is horribly ratio.
Jefferson has ONLY ran for 231 yards which includes 1 83 yard run. On 53 carries..
So 4 yards a carry including his one never again to happen 83 yard run.. Take out that fluke and you see the true JJ running the ball.. 52 carries for 148 yards a whopping 2.8 yards per carry.
Throwing the ball he has 2TDs and 7 Ints which is horribly ratio.
This post was edited on 10/14/10 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:28 am to BhamTigah
The argument that JJ is fragile and needs to start because otherwise he'll fall apart is bogus. If his ego is that damn fragile, give T.C. a chance to show what he can do.
There's no room for prima donnas or whiney babies in football.
There's no room for prima donnas or whiney babies in football.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:28 am to Steauxn
All of you rantards and ESPN need to leave the coaching to the HAT and just STFU...thank you,
This post was edited on 10/14/10 at 10:29 am
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:29 am to liquid rabbit
The guy did claim that he played very well in a game that he had a QB ratio of 15.
Posted on 10/14/10 at 10:30 am to CptBengal
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Nah, what's hypocritical is your attack of his opinion by use of your own...as if your opinion is somehow better.
That's hypocritical, and sad.
Uh, basically, isn't that what everyone does on this board, including you and me. All any of us have are opinions.
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