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re: "No fullbacks" according to O - Why?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:01 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:01 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Another "slap in the face" provided by Matt Canada at North Carolina State, the bastard:
65 receptions??? How's an H-back supposed to feel like part of the team when he is so under-used? Pitiful? May as well have put him out of his misery and kicked the loafer off the team. *** sarcasm ***
https://www.dandydon.com/
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Last year, Pitt running back James Conner snared 21 passes and his backup Quadree Henderson pulled down 26. The year before, Jaylen Samuels – a hybrid fullback/tight end – yanked down 65 receptions to diversify the Wolf Pack offense.
65 receptions??? How's an H-back supposed to feel like part of the team when he is so under-used? Pitiful? May as well have put him out of his misery and kicked the loafer off the team. *** sarcasm ***
https://www.dandydon.com/
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:19 am to Tiger Ree
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the best running back on the Redskins' roster was John Riggins, a fullback.
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Yep, I should have included him on the list. Another great power runner with speed. At one point in his athletic career he ran a 9.6 100 yard dash.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:30 am to msbargas
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Yep, I should have included him on the list. Another great power runner with speed. At one point in his athletic career he ran a 9.6 100 yard dash.
No he didn't
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:41 am to Elleshoe
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No he didn't
Well, he holds the Kansas high school 100 yard dash record of 9.8 sec. So, 9.6 isn't out of the question.
Correction: It's not a state record, it's Centralia High School record.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:42 am to dgnx6
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They just call it diff. They will still use a RB, fb, two te formation that everyone hated.
only difference is now there will be five people running routes out of it
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:44 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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but it doesn't make any sense to completely abandon it.
Why not?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:14 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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"No fullbacks" according to O - Why?
unless you're running a dinosaur system, FBs are like half a player instead of a full player
H-backs are a much, MUCH better position to use
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:18 am to LCTFAN
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The game is trending away from the power set and spreading the field forcing defenses to defend every square yard from sideline to sideline
i'm not criticizing your statement but i think a lot of LSU fans don't realize this trend is over 10 years old. it's not a trend anymore this is standard in CFB. LSU under Miles was just one of the few hold outs who refused to adapt to modern offensive principles
Utah won a BCS bowl in 2004 with a spread option
Texas won a national title in 2005 with a spread option
schools like Tulane and Northwestern were running spread-option princples in the early 00s
it's 2017. the philosophy is almost 20 years old at this point. there are freshmen at LSU who weren't born when these systems were first implemented. they've literally lived their entire lives with the spread option as a major CFB offensive system
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:27 am to JustSmokin
I agree that it's not to far off. That 9.8 was in high school. As I recall, he ran a 9.6 in college.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:38 am to ForeverEllisHugh
We have a New of with a new offensive philosophy and terminology.
If we wanted a modern offense we now have it.
If we wanted a modern offense we now have it.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:54 am to lsutigermall
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Vernacular
Is that guy still announcing? He must be a hundred...
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:13 pm to SHMILL
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Why is it Quarterback Fullback Halfback Shouldnt the halfback be in front? Inquiring minds....
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Bc when they say this, it's said with the idea that the ball is the starting point....or basically putting yourself as the defense and asking what you see.
Both of those answers, in order, would be qb, H back, rb.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:16 pm to lsutigermall
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Vernacular - Fullback, Halfback, Tailback are now used interchangeably.
No... no they aren't.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this trend is over 10 years old. it's not a trend anymore
Yes you are right about the timing and is trending was not the perfect wording and there are quite a few teams that have adopted this modern offense the last 10 years and the last 5 even Alabama has.
Using 3, 4 or even 5 WR's is common leaving no room for a fullback and was only explaining why coach O may be doing away with a fullback two back offense.
Miles was fired for refusing to adapt to modern principles and maybe coach O wants to keep his job
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:36 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 7/23/17 at 2:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well yeah, football formations have evolved, even in the old days, a good offensive coordinator found ways to make his play calling less predictable. It's misleading to assume that they always used the I-formation. More common was the split back or pro set formation which allowed for more options:
Note that the FB and TB did essentially the same thing. Back then, fullbacks were more valued as runners. They weren't just additional offensive linemen.
And of course there were numerous other formations, including shotgun.
Note that the FB and TB did essentially the same thing. Back then, fullbacks were more valued as runners. They weren't just additional offensive linemen.
And of course there were numerous other formations, including shotgun.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:35 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Coach Ogerone is trying to be successful and trying to make fans who only understand points happy ,I wish him and us luck !
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 11:36 am
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:46 am to tarzana
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Didn't Jacob Hester make his biggest impact running out of the fullback slot?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:09 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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"No fullbacks" according to O - Why?
Because Les used fullbacks. You haven't caught on to his mantra yet? He's sold himself as the anti-Miles.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:48 pm to lsutigermall
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"No fullbacks" according to O - Why? by lsutigermallVernacular - Fullback, Halfback, Tailback are now used interchangeably.
wingback too
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