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re: No elite DC is coming to work under Ed Orgeron

Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:13 pm to
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Aranda could have left, but he stayed. You talk shite and hope that it's true. Just because you hate O, don't go around crying about everything and talking shite. Maybe one day you will be important enough for someone to care what you do.



The OP is still technically correct. The elite DC just signed on to take Orgeron's job.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260574 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:14 pm to
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I care way more about LSU being elite


Aranda is smarter than you. He's staying for a reason

If it was the dumpster fire you goddamned women think it is, he would have left. It's still elite, ArNda will help keep it that way
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19351 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:16 pm to
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Arguably the best one in CFB turned down the most lucrative contract for a coordinator ever just to stay here. O must be doing something right.


I can’t tell if this is a pro-O thread or not. Why would Aranda go be the DC at TAMU where they just locked up a legit head coach? He can just stay here as DC for one more year and then be the HC at LSU. You know damn well that’s likely what got him to stay here.

“Dave.. just deal with O for one more year and we’ll give you the keys to this MFer”
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Aranda is smarter than you. He's staying for a reason

If it was the dumpster fire you goddamned women think it is, he would have left. It's still elite, ArNda will help keep it that way


Head coach in waiting doesn't happen when your current head coach has a bright future.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59693 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:17 pm to
One no name poster said that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260574 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:20 pm to
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Head coach in waiting doesn't happen when your current head coach has a bright future.


You people are so butthurt about not getting Herman you're looking past the obvious. LSUs next coach is already on staff.

Orgeron salary and buyout were never enough to suggest he's the long term future of the program.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:24 pm to
quote:


Head coach in waiting doesn't happen when your current head coach has a bright future


Did I miss something? When did his designation change?
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:25 pm to
It's kind of hard for him to give it a rest when people are attacking him. The fact is, there was a very significant risk that Aranda was going to go to A&M. It wasn't a "rumor". The negotiations were confirmed and there were Aggies on the board gloating. Securing Aranda would have made them much stronger and it would have crippled us.

It showed just how weak the strategy was of hiring a figurehead coach and "the best coordinators money can buy" if someone can poach away your only remaining elite coordinator. This, while the figurehead coach was in the process of firing his OC, who was believed to be one of the best OCs in the game.

Therefore, the concern was understandable and totally justifiable. I know you all know that, too. Your response, for whatever reason - homerism, financial connection, whatever - is simply to mock and deride those concerned.

The only way the present strategy works out in the long run is if Alleva now realizes Aranda is the key to long-term stability and O is, at best, a temporary stop-gap. O also needs to be able to manage talented, big-ego coordinators and not react in an emotional, threatened way during stressful times. I blame him for the Canada misunderstanding.

Let's also hope that Alleva and O are now sober enough to properly handle to OC position. After this, it better not be Ensminger or paying some nobody over $1M/yr to put a worse product on the field.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59693 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:26 pm to
I’ll believe it when I see it. HCIW Tag is a mostly thing of the past.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Did I miss something? When did his designation change?


He has a contract longer than the head coach.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:28 pm to
So glad Aranda stayed we desperately need Kendall Briles!!
Posted by CreoleKid24
San Antonio TX
Member since Dec 2013
273 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:35 pm to
He already has the best fricking DC in football working for him....unfrickingbelievable!
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:36 pm to
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Good DCs aren’t going to let meddling Ed ruin their career.


Quick, better call Aranda and tell him.

Moron.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

O also needs to be able to manage talented, big-ego coordinators and not react in an emotional, threatened way during stressful times. I blame him for the Canada misunderstanding.


Fill us in on what transpired and why the blame lands at O's feet, oh mighty one.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

The OP is still technically correct. The elite DC just signed on to take Orgeron's job.


This is 100% false. The OP is absolutely NOT technically correct. How is Aranda assured of O's job? Hack.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:43 pm to
Alleva had to step in and manage the situation, rumors of a fight, confirmation that O and Canada never made up. O has to manage that better. That's literally all he is hired to do - set his coordinators up to succeed because he can't do it himself.

So, enlighten me as to why you think this is Canada's fault and what is your evidence?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

This is 100% false. The OP is absolutely NOT technically correct. How is Aranda assured of O's job? Hack.


, once again, Aranda has a longer contract than the head coach. Feel free to spin that as a good thing for Orgeron's future if you'd like.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:56 pm to
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No, it doesn’t apply when the guy is already here.


Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:59 pm to
correct me if I'm wrong, but O has a 5 year deal (4 years left) and Aranda now has a fresh 4 year deal.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3330 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:01 pm to
WHY would you ask for evidence when you just gave what you acknowledge to be rumors? You don’t even know if they are true. You don’t know which person mishandled the situation, if either did at all.
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