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re: No apology from SEC about hawkin's jersey being pulled on?

Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:31 am to
Posted by SlyCorley98
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2007
134 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:31 am to
quote:

You can see into the future?


Yea I sure can. I saw Scott getting tackled at, or behind, the LOS every time we ran the option with him, before it happened.

You tell me, can you see the future? No, so why argue that LSU could have won if it had been called? Noone knows but the bottom line is LSU could not put points up.
Posted by stingercj7
Florida
Member since Oct 2009
161 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:33 am to
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Hawkins was toast on that play whether his jersey got grabbed or not




Really?? Hawkins was right with him until cooper's tug which almost caused Hawkins to fall.
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11590 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:36 am to
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How? We only scored 3 points.


Because when we were in the red zone, we could have kicked another FG and been tied...that's how.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33205 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:36 am to
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Hawkins would have gotten burned anyway.


Actually, you are very wrong. the ball was not high enough for cooper to take advantage of the height difference (i.e. Green play). UF was trying to isolate Hawkins as UGA did, but had seperation via the tug not occurred, he would've knocked it down at the very least.

That no-call was huge.
This post was edited on 10/14/09 at 9:37 am
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:38 am to
Where did I say we would have won? I just said that play would have been called back.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33650 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:40 am to
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Really?? Hawkins was right with him until cooper's tug which almost caused Hawkins to fall.


looked at his feet and hips he(hawkins) was turning to cover the out.......

11 would have been free and clear..

Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:41 am to
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Because when we were in the red zone, we could have kicked another FG and been tied...that's how.

Does that mean we win?

That play had nothing to do with us losing.
Posted by SlyCorley98
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2007
134 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:50 am to
Did you people not see Hawkins stop AFTER Riley let go of him?
Posted by Carl Dubois
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2009
326 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:50 am to
I was curious, because I didn't remember receiving a news release from the SEC with an apology about the excessive-celebration penalty against Georgia, so I contacted SEC Associate Commissioner Charles Bloom yesterday afternoon. He clarified for me that there was no apology. There are headlines all over the Internet that say "SEC apologizes to Georgia for penalty" and other phrasings that use the word "apology," but that's an interpretation by bloggers, writers and headline writers, not a true statement, apparently.

"There was no official statement," he said, meaning the conference office didn't formally address the issue.

The only public comments by Rogers Redding on the matter were in one-on-one interviews with reporters, Bloom said.

I asked if Redding would be available to answer questions about the no-call in the Florida-LSU game. Bloom said he'd check on that today.

I suppose some could see it as a semantics game whether or not acknowledging an error is, in fact, an apology, but Bloom said the SEC did not issue a statement of apology.
Posted by SlyCorley98
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2007
134 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:52 am to
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Where did I say we would have won? I just said that play would have been called back.


So you would just rather lose by less points? This play has no bearing on our offense and its inability to score.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33205 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:54 am to
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Did you people not see Hawkins stop AFTER Riley let go of him?


he was waiting for the hanky. your interpretation is incorrect.

choupic, while I agree with his positioning, he still could have recovered especially considering the ball was not thrown as high as it should have been.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75808 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:55 am to
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I suppose some could see it as a semantics game whether or not acknowledging an error is, in fact, an apology, but Bloom said the SEC did not issue a statement of apology.


I don't see the two as the same thing. I don't think the SEC needs to apologize for anything because human error is part of the game. BUT, they do need to acknowledge when an error has occurred, and if people take that as a tacit apology, then so be it.
Posted by SlyCorley98
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2007
134 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:56 am to
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but had seperation via the tug not occurred


The tug did not cause the seperation.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:58 am to
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Hawkins would have gotten burned anyway.

We probably lose the game anyway(they still could have scored had the penalty been called) but Hawkins had excellant position on the play and had played tight coverage the whole game to that point. Riley took the gamble because he had not been able to get open deep up to that point. Several of Tebows runs were breaking containment due to tight coverage down field. The Florida fans sitting above us were even commenting on that issue during the entire game.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:59 am to
quote:

The tug did not cause the seperation.

Wrong.
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6865 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I was curious, because I didn't remember receiving a news release from the SEC with an apology about the excessive-celebration penalty against Georgia, so I contacted SEC Associate Commissioner Charles Bloom yesterday afternoon. He clarified for me that there was no apology. There are headlines all over the Internet that say "SEC apologizes to Georgia for penalty" and other phrasings that use the word "apology," but that's an interpretation by bloggers, writers and headline writers, not a true statement, apparently.

"There was no official statement," he said, meaning the conference office didn't formally address the issue.

The only public comments by Rogers Redding on the matter were in one-on-one interviews with reporters, Bloom said.

I asked if Redding would be available to answer questions about the no-call in the Florida-LSU game. Bloom said he'd check on that today.

I suppose some could see it as a semantics game whether or not acknowledging an error is, in fact, an apology, but Bloom said the SEC did not issue a statement of apology.


Fan talk - it's easier to express righteous indignation when you use a word like "apology."
Posted by Tomm
Member since Aug 2009
1298 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 10:00 am to
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I'm still waiting the apology from the 2006 Auburn hatchet job. Those refs 100% influenced the outcome of that game with several bad calls/non-calls.


Correct, that easily stands out as the worst officiated game in football history I have seen. At least 3 obvious pass interference calls that weren't called including an "abdominal stretch" on an LSU receiver in the endzone and of course the "tipped pass" which I agree was tipped downfield but AFTER another Auburn defender had already tackled the LSU one. Tipped pass ONLY removes pass interference potential if done BEFORE the interference is committed, not afterwards. The timing was obvious on the replay but since replay wasn't around then and since even now it doesn't cover pass interference, the refs made the mistake and it stood
Posted by SlyCorley98
Lake Charles
Member since Mar 2007
134 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Wrong.


Did Riley pulling Hawkins' jersey cause Hawkins' legs to stop moving?
Posted by horndog
*edited by ADMIN
Member since Apr 2007
11789 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 10:01 am to
I actually thought it was good play on the receivers part. Why would u think the conference officials should apologize for the missed call? Some of you guys are pitiful.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33650 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 10:03 am to
ANYONE that played DB or coached DBs at a high level....

knows.... Hawkins was beat.. plain and simple.. he had bad position.. and WAS toast..

and there is something else pretty glaring on that play.. but. I'll save that for later
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