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re: Nick Saban prior to being hired at lsu was successful.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Nick Saban prior to being hired at lsu was successful.
Yes, yes he was. So was Les Miles. O, however, was not.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:56 pm to 9th Green At 9
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Nick Saban is not Ed Orgeron
Fact
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:56 pm to SUB
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's been 13-4 as a head coach / interim head coac
interim coaching isnt running a program.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:57 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Yes, yes he was. So was Les Miles. O, however, was not.
this guys gets it
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:58 pm to SUB
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And Dabo Swinney had zero head coaching when he was hired
Neither did O when he was hired at Ole Miss. If Dabo won 3 ACC games in 3 years at Clemson and was fired and went back to being a position coach, wouldn't you find it curious if Florida State turned around and hired him as their head man 9 years later?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:59 pm to whitefoot
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Quit on Cleveland
Got beat by Dinardo
Nice try though.
and?
still took CLEVELAND TO #1 NFL DEFENSE
still finished # 7
saban almost has twice as many national titles as ed orgeron has career sec wins
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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interim coaching isnt running a program.
What do you mean by this? Yes, he didn't build the program, but isn't that a good thing, if the previous coach was fired? It should be inherently much more difficult to be successful as an interim coach than a head coach at the same school.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 2:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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interim coaching isnt running a program.
Yea it really is.....temporarily.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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He turned the Cleveland Browns into the #1 ranked defense in the NFL.
He took a Michigan State program coming off sanctions to a #7 finish.
he was not a 55 year old career dline coach.
Haven't you heard? None of this is important. His resume is not important, only that he probably improved from whatever happened in the past and that whatever job we are talking about is his dream job. Time passed therefore he improved. That is a fact. It really is that simple dude. He also 100% learned from all of his mistakes. Therefore, the mistakes don't matter, he learned from them. A #1 defense on a resume is not important. Learning from whatever mistakes he made as the #1 defense is important. And trust me, there were mistakes as a #1 defense. Saban learned from them. Mistakes made as the #1 defense are no important than mistakes made as the #32 defense, therefore a coach who has the #1 defense on his resume is precisely equal in regards to experience as the one with the #32 defense.
His records before MSU don't matter in regards to his hire at MSU. And his records before LSU don't matter in regards to his hire at LSU. And so forth.
Or so it goes.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:02 pm to SUB
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What do you mean by this? Yes, he didn't build the program, but isn't that a good thing, if the previous coach was fired?
so lets break down o's interim tenures.
he was not making long term hires
he was not running the offense
he was not running the defense
if not hiring coaches, not running the defensen not running the offense is considered running a program then ive been running programs my entire life. good lord.
he also was 1-4 agajnst any of the good teams he faced during his interim tenures.
interim tenures don't allow coaches to make long term decisions.
we all know what happened the last time O was allowed to make long term decisions at a program.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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and?
I'm just presenting facts.
What part of my post do you disagree with?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:05 pm to SUB
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It should be inherently much more difficult to be successful as an interim coach than a head coach at the same school.
Well now, this is just silly.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:06 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Yea it really is.....temporarily.
no its not. interim coaches arent allowed to make lomg term decisions. you know.... decisions that actually prove you know what youre doing.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
There is only one Saban and he is at Bama.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:07 pm to whitefoot
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I'm just presenting facts.
What part of my post do you disagree with
its your opinion he quit on Cleveland.
and miles beat saban does that mean miles is a better coach?
with your logic i guess so.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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no its not. interim coaches arent allowed to make lomg term decisions
Well I'm sure he wasn't ASKED to make long term decision given the nature of his position...dont u think?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:12 pm to tigerfootball10
Alright - stop right there. Saban's 95 MSU team did not have more talent than that exceptional 95 Tiger team led by Dinardo.
Sorry had to get that off my chest. Whew.
Sorry had to get that off my chest. Whew.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:13 pm to lsu2006
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Neither did O when he was hired at Ole Miss. If Dabo won 3 ACC games in 3 years at Clemson and was fired and went back to being a position coach, wouldn't you find it curious if Florida State turned around and hired him as their head man 9 years later?
Well...what if he said he learned his lesson AND hired a radio guy to help him interview?
What then, smartass?!??
Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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its your opinion he quit on Cleveland
That's not my opinion. That's a fact. Please don't tell me you think Belichek fired him.
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and miles beat saban
Also a fact
quote:How do get to that conclusion?
does that mean miles is a better coach?
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