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re: Net Effect of the Florida deal
Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:59 am to Croozin2
Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:59 am to Croozin2
quote:One million dollars difference in this issue is a wash.
As far as I know, each school had to fund their own buyouts. Florida owed Presbyterian $500k whereas LSU owed USA $1.5M. Doesn't sound like a wash to me.
Plus, you wouldn't hold up the whole rest of the deal over that monetary differential.
This deal was a case of the best possible deal for both sides.
UF & LSU folks can both make cases the other side won (or got more) in the settlement, that's the hallmark of a good deal.
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:03 am to BayouBengals18
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This. People are all excited we get Florida at home this year, but aren't thinking about next year. We were already short one home game, since we open in Houston against BYU, now we lost an SEC home game.
I disagree. I'm pretty sure everybody is aware of the situation we are in next year, and then 2018 is back to normal. 2017 was gonna be a difficult year anyways with a new coach. But at any rate, we are paying a price for floridas incompetence and we should be praised for our willingness to concede for the good of the conference.
Why is Florida praised for being so benevolent to the cause, and LSU is blasted for being "short sighted" and greedy? Seems to me that everybody else is being short sighted for not praising LSU for making long term concessions. Or were LSU and Florida both supposed to make immediate concessions? Cause that was really going well wasn't it....
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:05 am to fiercey
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Did I miss anything?
the cost of traveling to gainesville
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:09 am to LSU FAMILY
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The Fla ticket would have been at least the same face value as the OM ticket. So $65 difference per ticket x100,000 equals $6.5 million lost revenue for LSU.
That's not how that works for season tickets.
Season tickets are $425 for 7 games without Tradition Fund or TAF fees. Face value used to be divided equally among the number of home games, so tickets would have been $60 each. Now some games have face value of $30, some are $100+ but the costs added together should equal whatever the season price is.
The difference in ticket price ONLY affects tickets sold to away game fans and if there are tickets on lsusports.net
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 7:13 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:13 am to fiercey
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Did I miss anything?
Florida lost two home games this season. They lose $500,000 for the Presbyterian buyout.
LSU loses one home game this year and one next year and pays S. Alabama $1.5 million for this buyout.
LSU gets UF at home which should produce additional revenue for the university and the city this year.
I believe the mandate of that game being played in B.R. was in part because the S. Alabama buyout was $1 million more which is too much of an imbalance to play Florida in Gainesville at a later date when they could have played last week and could have avoided putting LSU and the SEC in that position.
And the biggest win of this entire situation is there will likely be a vote that will give the commissioner the power going forward to step in and make the decision when the two schools cannot reach an agreement. That power would have likely forced UF to have kept the game on the schedule this season. So that is a win.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 7:17 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:19 am to WilliamTaylor21
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But don't let this interrupt your stupidity
Actually, the fact you think this works out for LSU exposes your stupidity for all to see.
LSU has an SEC loss and its West title hopes are slim and none and slim just left town. LSU traded a night home game for a day home game in 2016 and handicapped itself for 2017 by trading an SEC home game for an SEC road game.
As for your local economy angle, how will the local economy be helped next year with 6 total home games (in addition to 5 SEC road games, LSU plays a neutral site game vs. BYU in Houston)?
But keep believing LSU got the better end, or even any benefit, in this deal. You should quit posting because it's obvious you have no clue about what you're discussing.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 7:22 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:22 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
They should adjust the SEC schedule to whatever SEC east team we play will more than likely come to BR instead of the team traveling.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:26 am to semperfitolsu
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They should adjust the SEC schedule to whatever SEC east team we play will more than likely come to BR instead of the team traveling
This can't be done. It's like a Jenga game. Each cross divisional opponent of each team being rotated each year is strategically dictated a home/away designation so that all 14 teams have 3 home in division games, 3 away in division games, 1 home opposite division game and 1 away opposite division game. If you change just 1 of those, the whole thing crumbles.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 7:28 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:32 am to fiercey
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Let me get this straight.
You guys traded locations on two games: an away game with Florida next year for a home game with Florida this year. This part should be a wash for both university dollars and local economy dollars.
You guys lost the home game with S. Alabama. This hurts university dollars and local economy dollars.
You guys have to pay S. Alabama to buy out the date. This hurts university dollars.
Florida gets to use their insurance for this year's game. Are they reimbursing you with that money or is LSU and Baton Rouge just getting screwed here?
Edit: The net effect over this season and next is LSU and Baton Rouge lose one (home) game and LSU also pays to buy out the S. Alabama game.
Did I miss anything?
I don't know what kind of life you have but mine has plusses and minusses no matter which choices you make in life, there are no Perfect Choices, there is alwasys some down side.
We have a new coach, we needed to play these guys THIS YEAR in a way that still gave us a shot, this was the BEST solution to achieve this year and next years goals.
Some People will always whine
But you did Troll well
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:34 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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but that's why they call it concessions. Both teams had to give up something to make it fair,
This is my biggest issue. Life ain't fair. You deal with the shite you're given. LSU didn't create a hurricane and LSU gave UF EVERY opportunity to play the game last weekend. LSU should have to concede exactly zero IMO.
Oh by the way, a hurricane that didn't even effect Gainesville on Saturday when the game could have been played in perfect football weather
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:43 am to roger79
You forgot to mention another downside. Without the South Alabama game (win we assume) we will have a tougher time qualifying for a bowl game.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:27 am to Red Stick Tigress
Tell you what, if you think that's the case, I will buy each one of your South Alabama tickets for face value on the ticket, $30.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:29 am to fiercey
LSU gets 13 SEC home games vs. 11 SEC road games from 2015-2017 and our fans bitch and moan about a buyout of South Alabama when a month ago said LSU has enough money to buy any coach they want
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:29 am to fiercey
I'm glad it's this season we get it so florida fans can spend money sooner than later here post flood.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:35 am to Jeff Goldblum
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roger79 said: "LSU traded a night home game for a day home game in 2016"
Nice point.
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Jeff Goldblum said: "You forgot to mention another downside. Without the South Alabama game (win we assume) we will have a tougher time qualifying for a bowl game."
Good one. I didn't think of that.
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Mulat said: "But you did Troll well."
Nah, no trolling. A sports writer friend and I were discussing and his article was making it out like this was a good deal for LSU. It didnt seem a good deal to me and I know you guys know your stuff. It was just a clarifying question since there was so much misinformation and elation in some camps.
If you guys are getting a home with Florida this year but having to give up your home with Florida next year-- net effect zero. Some may argue this is actually a loss because you're giving up a night home game in exhange for a day home game.
Then on top of that you're losing ANOTHER home game vs. S Alabama. Then on top of that you're having to pay $1+ million to buy out the S. Alabama game.
I just don't see how this is a good deal for LSU at all.
If you guys had said no then you'd have kept the home game vs S. Alabama, kept the money you're now paying them, kept the night home game vs. Florida next year, had one extra home game for the businesses in Baton Rouge (over this season and next), and lost only an away game vs. Florida this year.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 8:53 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:42 am to roger79
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LSU traded a night home game for a day home game in 2016
Day Home Game > Night Home Game in every way.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:43 am to fiercey
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If you guys had said no then you'd have kept the home game vs S. Alabama, kept the money you're now paying them, kept the night home game vs. Florida next year, and lost only an away game vs. Florida this year.
And any chance that we had at playing in the SEC title game this year....sure that's a long shot but tell that to the players.
ETA I actually think that the SEC would have forced this game to be played in Gainesville on 11/19 had LSU refused this deal.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 8:44 am
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:49 am to LSU316
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Day Home Game > Night Home Game in every way.
Just curious, why?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:52 am to fiercey
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Just curious, why?
Well the major reasons are personal for me.....You can do your tailgating, go to game, and be home before 2AM.
I also wonder if more TV revenue isn't involved with that game being a CBS game vs a 6:30 SEC Network game....maybe not on this point I'm not sure.
I just like day games better.....I don't get shitfaced drunk tailgating like I used to as a college student though.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 8:53 am to JustSmokin
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Yes, Net over 2 years is LSU loses a home game and UF does not plus is receiving insurance money for one of those.
Florida will lose 2 home games this year. They get one back next year.
Yep, you're right.
my bad.
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