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re: ND fan here
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:15 am to Here for the Heist
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:15 am to Here for the Heist
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ND attracts a lot of players for the exact same reason we cannot get some other players. Kelly can lock up some really great recruits that simply want to play at a place like ND over a place like LSU. That makes it easier to secure kids. ND is an easy sale to them and he's not wasting time trying to get some kid that will never get into ND or fit at the school. He's going to have to battle it out for kids at LSU. I think he will recruit fine and it's easier at LSU but it's not as simple as it seems on the surface.
This is a great point. Lsu isn't pulling kids from all over the country that just want to come to notre dame.
It's def a different type of recruiting. As long as we win lsu recruits itself.
I think that's why he likes rees, he can recruit and be his voice.
I personally like rees and think his young offensive mind matched with kelly is the perfect balance.
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:21 am to Here for the Heist
My ND friend says we will not like Quinn and hopes he comes to LSU.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:22 am to Here for the Heist
great thread, thanks Heist 
one thing to remember, BK can focus on LA, TX and MS and LSU can be a Top 20 team. if he gets a few FL, GA, AL kids and the occasional national kid he is Top 5 and in view of NC level
we have seen this for 20 yrs under three different HCs
much easier recruiting, much easier to focus HC’s time and energy
recruiting trips are shorter at LSU
one thing to remember, BK can focus on LA, TX and MS and LSU can be a Top 20 team. if he gets a few FL, GA, AL kids and the occasional national kid he is Top 5 and in view of NC level
we have seen this for 20 yrs under three different HCs
much easier recruiting, much easier to focus HC’s time and energy
recruiting trips are shorter at LSU
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:26 am to Here for the Heist
Appreciate the insight, my man
My dad is a lifelong ND fan and he was shocked we were able to pull it off. I casually cheer for ND just because he's a fan, but hope you all are able to land a good coach to replace BK. He swears Freeman will be promoted to HC but who knows. What do you think? Sorry if I missed where you already commented on it.
I could've sworn when they brought Freeman in that was the plan for him to replace BK eventually, but I don't think anyone thought it would be this quick.
My dad is a lifelong ND fan and he was shocked we were able to pull it off. I casually cheer for ND just because he's a fan, but hope you all are able to land a good coach to replace BK. He swears Freeman will be promoted to HC but who knows. What do you think? Sorry if I missed where you already commented on it.
I could've sworn when they brought Freeman in that was the plan for him to replace BK eventually, but I don't think anyone thought it would be this quick.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:28 am to Here for the Heist
Thanks for all the info. Quality contributions to the rant sir.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:29 am to Here for the Heist
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:31 am to massilsu
There are two coaches I would never say no to - Saban and Urban. I'm not trying to troll the board but I really have a ton of respect for Saban. I don't really respect Urban but he is a proven winner and he would kill it at ND. That said, it will NEVER happen. People who have connections to athletic department and administration laugh at the notion, and if Urban meyer called them about the job, allegedly we wouldn't even give him an interview. I know, it sounds ridiculous but I believe it.
Here's something about BK that I didn't mention before. Kelly rarely loses a game when he has the more talented team. Just look at ND's losses over the last four years - he lost two games when we had more talent, stanford in 2017 (they were actually good but less talented) and this year against Cincy (awful coaching job by ND and Ridder basically was the difference).
I know this sounds idiotic to a casual fan but that's just not the case with many coaches out there. That is the worst part about losing BK. He was probably never going to win a title at ND but we weren't going to lose games to an average opportunistic team.
He's going to have the most talented team 11 games a year or more with LSU.
Here's something about BK that I didn't mention before. Kelly rarely loses a game when he has the more talented team. Just look at ND's losses over the last four years - he lost two games when we had more talent, stanford in 2017 (they were actually good but less talented) and this year against Cincy (awful coaching job by ND and Ridder basically was the difference).
I know this sounds idiotic to a casual fan but that's just not the case with many coaches out there. That is the worst part about losing BK. He was probably never going to win a title at ND but we weren't going to lose games to an average opportunistic team.
He's going to have the most talented team 11 games a year or more with LSU.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:38 am to Here for the Heist
it is pretty amazing ND is sitting at 11-1 after losing one of the All Time ND QBs in Ian Book
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:39 am to SaDaTayMoses
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Maybe we get O next year strictly as the recruiting coordinator
Everybody is down voting you, but this is a fantastic idea.
O, banging blondes, eating boudin, and recruiting Louisiana ballers.
“@*$33#$ #=53$$& %$#+$#%, National Championships, Geaux Tigers!”
“ Sign here.”
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:44 am to Lsupimp
You touched on the thing that pisses off ND fans the most about BK. He came here as a QB guru and has yet to deliver a five star stud or develop a stud. We landed a big recruit, phil jurkovec, a few years back and he never played the kid b/c he went with the safe bet, Ian Book. Book was a really good QB that would never lose you a game but just didn't have the arm you need to win a game against georgia or bama. If you remember correctly, we had Georgia on the ropes twice and couldn't finish them. In large part b/c our QB couldn't take the top off of their defense. It was frustrating as a fan b/c you see this guy winning game after game but we knew deep inside we would need a difference maker at QB to pull an upset in the playoffs. The truth is, ND is about as talented as clemson was when they won a couple titles - they just had a once in a decade QB and Dabo was surprisingly smart enough to roll with him. BK would never take a chance like that at ND. Maybe it was a smart move. He wasn't required to win a title, he was required to win a lot of games. That's not enough at LSU so maybe he changes his approach.
I think he can develop a QB but I'm not sure. He will certainly take whoever you have and put them in a position to win a game. Just not sure that's enough to beat bama or whoever else is elite in the SEC in any given year.
My opinion is he needs to adjust the run game to get downhill quicker in the SEC. He's stubborn but can and will adapt based on his teams strenght. Is he willing to change his philosophy entirely is a good question. I think so but jsut a guess.
yes, he'll be fine in the heat. Just make sure you clear the fields during a hurricane.
He hired Elko, Lea and Freeman. The freeman hire was especially good b/c he was able to get him from you and you were willing to pay more. He has an eye for talent and will make good moves. He gets in trouble when he hires some of his old buddies but that trend died a few years ago.
I think he can develop a QB but I'm not sure. He will certainly take whoever you have and put them in a position to win a game. Just not sure that's enough to beat bama or whoever else is elite in the SEC in any given year.
My opinion is he needs to adjust the run game to get downhill quicker in the SEC. He's stubborn but can and will adapt based on his teams strenght. Is he willing to change his philosophy entirely is a good question. I think so but jsut a guess.
yes, he'll be fine in the heat. Just make sure you clear the fields during a hurricane.
He hired Elko, Lea and Freeman. The freeman hire was especially good b/c he was able to get him from you and you were willing to pay more. He has an eye for talent and will make good moves. He gets in trouble when he hires some of his old buddies but that trend died a few years ago.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:44 am to Here for the Heist
Notre Dame not only has more talent than all of their opponents, they play absolute cupcakes in 70% of their games and still only squeeze past some like Toledo.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:46 am to supatigah
For sure. Consider the level of talent you have in LA as compared to IN. Now consider the fact that IN has three power five teams and OSU about 100 miles from the border. Purdue and IU aren't great but my point still stands. LSU may be the best place to recruit in teh country outside of southern cal and those kids are mentally weak and they can't produce lineman.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:53 am to mmcgrath
Winning a close game against Toledo is inexcusable but you have to dig a bit deeper to understand the circumstances. ND's offensive line was an absolute disaster. RT is playing injured, LG and RG are new, LT was 4th string true freshman.
They looked like hell the first five weeks of the year and still managed to win four of five, including a win against Wiscy. I understand they are not some great team but they are always solid.
At the end of the day, ND is in a rebuild year and went 11-1. ND has more talent than about 80% of their schedule and tehy win about 90% of the time.
LSU has more talent than everyone and went 6-6. Again, I'm not criticizing you. My point is that some coaches lose a lot of games despite having more talent. Kelly doesn't. Does that mean, he's great - no. But it's something that LSU fans should be optimistic about.
They looked like hell the first five weeks of the year and still managed to win four of five, including a win against Wiscy. I understand they are not some great team but they are always solid.
At the end of the day, ND is in a rebuild year and went 11-1. ND has more talent than about 80% of their schedule and tehy win about 90% of the time.
LSU has more talent than everyone and went 6-6. Again, I'm not criticizing you. My point is that some coaches lose a lot of games despite having more talent. Kelly doesn't. Does that mean, he's great - no. But it's something that LSU fans should be optimistic about.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:53 am to Here for the Heist
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Is Marcus Freeman still being talked about as HCIW or was that all noise when he was first hired as DC?
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:54 am to Here for the Heist
I mean dabo didnt take a chance.
Lawrence was that good.
Jurkovec isn't and looks like kelly made the right decision.
Lawrence was that good.
Jurkovec isn't and looks like kelly made the right decision.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:55 am to Here for the Heist
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ND attracts a lot of players for the exact same reason we cannot get some other players
We’ve won 3 titles because of players that come to play football not academics. Look at the nfl rosters. Louisiana is filled with unreal talent at the skill. When we have a qb barely anyone can touch us outside of a bama or UF with a heisman qb.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:59 am to supatigah
As frustrating as BK can be, he coached his arse off this year. Again, this may not mean a damn thing moving forward but any ND fan who can't acknowledge this year as being impressive is an idiot.
I think fans are frustrated with him this year b/c that cincy game was winnable and they made personnel and offensive adjustments after the game that elevated their play dramatically. If those same adjustments were made after week 2 or 3, ND is probably undefeated right now.
College football fans are fickle.
I think fans are frustrated with him this year b/c that cincy game was winnable and they made personnel and offensive adjustments after the game that elevated their play dramatically. If those same adjustments were made after week 2 or 3, ND is probably undefeated right now.
College football fans are fickle.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:00 pm to sweetwaterbilly
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I could've sworn when they brought Freeman in that was the plan for him to replace BK eventually, but I don't think anyone thought it would be this quick.
read on the Rant that he was Head Coach In Waiting, so do they now tell him, "Yeah, you are the Head Coach in waiting, but not yet..."? Would be insulting. don't ya'll think?
Heist is that correct?
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:03 pm to Here for the Heist
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Here for the Heist
Your thoughts are organized, clearly articulated, and you present facts and opinions in a respectable and intelligent manner.
You won't last a week here.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:03 pm to Here for the Heist
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yes, he'll be fine in the heat. Just make sure you clear the fields during a hurricane.
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