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Posted on 2/15/14 at 8:32 pm to droliver
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It's not about the play itself per se, it's about neutralizing a tactic that limits player substitutions. By coming to the line, the HUNH is eliminating the ability to rotate players. Few teams are running plays in the 10 seconds discussed. Auburn for instance hurries to the line and then slows day before the snap.
This is only a problem for defenses that rely solely on situational substitutions. But there is nothing inherent about situational substitutions. There have been times when substitutions were limited, meaning that players had to play both ways. HUNH offenses use the tactic simply to put teams in the wrong defense, which is the same reason teams run play-action passes.
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Saban and Bielema do have a point in that there's a philosophical issue about what we want the game to look like. Do we want to eliminate situational substitution? Do we want to discourage complex defensive schemes and the traditional pacing of the game?
One of the ways college football is superior to the NFL is that there is real variation in the strategies teams use. Do we really want to eliminate some of that variation?
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HUNH is kind of exploiting a loophole in the rulebook as it relates to substitution and tradition of the game.
So is bleeding the clock when ahead late. What is the difference?
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The idea of increasing injuries from more plays per game and breakdown in techniques from sloppier play is a valid contention when you talk to sports medicine experts as they've both been implicated in increased injury potential (albit not in the context of discussing HUNH style of play)
No data has been presented to support this. OBTW, what effect on injuries has come from adding 3 games a season since 1970?
Saban and Bielema come off as whiners here to everyone who is not a fan of their teams.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 2/15/14 at 8:44 pm to 03GeeTee
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How about they focus on fixing the retarded "Targeting" rule first.
Since you didn't read the article:
"The committee also proposed a change to the targeting rule that would eliminate the 15-yard penalty when instant replay officials overturn an ejection. Last year, when a targeting penalty was called, the 15-yard penalty stood even if the replay official determined the player should be allowed to stay in the game"
And since most people complaining apparently didn't read the article as well:
"Both proposals need approval from the playing rules oversight panel, which is schedule to consider them on March 6."
It is NOT a done deal at all.
“Hurry up will always be an issue if the defense isn’t ready,” he said. “Making the defense ready isn’t a time issue. It’s the length of time of the defensive call and the length of time the defense has to substitute.” That is Les Miles' take HUNH trend.
By the way, you guys remember the WV 2011 accusations that Miles was directing players to feign injury controversy? and Iowa fans seem convinced this past Cap One Bowl that doing so was a strategy LSU employed.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 2/15/14 at 8:48 pm to Thorny
First off the rule sucks. This game has been played for a centry and this hasn't been an issue. BS
Secondly, and the worst thing about it is this, Saban mumbled something about play being to fast and now the whole fricking league has to change. Total crap.
If you want to slow it down do it on your dime not the teams! Stop the forking clock instead of forcing the offense to burn clock when they are down and trying to mount a comeback. Total BS!
Secondly, and the worst thing about it is this, Saban mumbled something about play being to fast and now the whole fricking league has to change. Total crap.
If you want to slow it down do it on your dime not the teams! Stop the forking clock instead of forcing the offense to burn clock when they are down and trying to mount a comeback. Total BS!
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:53 pm to Thorny
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Saban and Bielema
and Muschamp and Spurrier reportedly.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:14 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
The only difference will be when a defensive player needs to sub he will have a chance to and won't lay down and feign an injury (which to my view is just as valid an exploitation of the rules as the no huddle). Frankly, I rather have this rule in place so that fans of HUNH teams will stop booing when a player goes down.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:13 am to PeaRidgeWatash
Stupid rule is stupid.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:52 am to PeaRidgeWatash
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:49 am to MRTigerFan
This proposal stinks. Every team has an equal chance to use the hurry up offense. It adds excitement to the game.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:59 pm to LuzianaFootball
quote:so true or switch up the scheme.
Exactly. Defenses have to get their conditioning up and coaches have to coach and manage the game better.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 3:35 pm to LSU=Champions
I vote for that!! I like a good defensive game as well as offensive.. Balance with defense winning championships....
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