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re: Ncaa proposed rule change for no huddle

Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:47 pm to
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the player was ejected for grazing the helmet of the QB.

Well the rule shouldn't exist in the 1st place. If the rule has to exist, it should have to be malicious and egregious. Right now, a matter of inches results in ejection


They could do that, but then you have to worry about how malicious and egregious is going to be defined.

Easiest thing would be to review and suspend on Monday if someone needs suspending and pull replay out of it.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Not really, the play clock starts when the ball becomes dead on the previous down generally speaking.


Doesn't matter. His point was the game clock would be stopped on an incomplete pass, which has NO bearing on the play clock. The play clock would start at the same time either way.

And NO to your point the play clock starts immediately at the end of the previous play Are you serious? It starts when the ball is spotted at the line of scrimmage
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:52 pm to
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And NO to your point the play clock starts immediately at the end of the previous play Are you serious? It starts when the ball is spotted at the line of scrimmage


That's incorrect. With the introduction of the 40 second play clock the play clock now starts, in most instances when the ball is declared dead on the previous down.

Are YOU serious?
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:02 pm to
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And NO to your point the play clock starts immediately at the end of the previous play Are you serious? It starts when the ball is spotted at the line of scrimmage


hahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahah


Also what about spiking the ball outside of the 2 minute windows spoken about in the article? Has this been discussed?

ETA ahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahaha and be more wrong next time
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77738 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

And NO to your point the play clock starts immediately at the end of the previous play Are you serious? It starts when the ball is spotted at the line of scrimmage

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98376 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:13 pm to
Saban doing work.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3946 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:16 pm to
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Because of the increase number of plays (generally), the defense should be able to substitute if they want to regardless of what the offense does.


It's called a timeout.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:30 pm to
Just discussed this on van pelt with sumlin

It's complete bullshite

bielema and saban are pushing this new rule and it doesn't make any sense at all.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13986 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:35 pm to
That's terrible, it's 3rd and inches, you can't hurry back to the line and do a quick sneak.....?
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:38 pm to
What if they just made a rule that said a team can not run more than three plays in a row without a huddle? That should not affect a HUNH offense too much and it gives a defense time to switch packages.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:40 pm to
incomplete pass?
penalty
out of bounds?
measurement?

regardless. his comment was talking about the GAME clock being stopped. I stand corrected about certain instances. I said the play clock isn't effected.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:46 pm to
Anyone who wants to change this into a rule is a damn fool. Did we outlaw the slot receiver when they started becoming effective? How about the pass catching tight end? Or kicking with a holder? Or hell even the forward pass? This is such a knee jerk reaction
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:47 pm to
The whole thing just makes no sense. What's the point of having a 40 second playclock? Why not just have a 30 second playclock and just have the ref stand over the ball for 10 seconds between play?

So basically this helps teams that want to shorten the game and use as much time as possible, but penalize teams that want to run as many plays as possible. Why should a new rule be put in place to benefit one style of play?

Let's say you are line up quickly and a defender jumps across the line before 30 seconds on the clock, are you not allowed to snap the ball to catch him offsides?
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:51 pm to
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The whole thing just makes no sense. What's the point of having a 40 second playclock? Why not just have a 30 second playclock and just have the ref stand over the ball for 10 seconds between play?


That's basically what you had with the 25 second clock.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:21 pm to
The targeting rule was a mistake from the beginning, should not have been introduced. I'm glad they're backing away from it. Hopefully, within a couple of seasons it'll be abolished completely.

As for defensive substitutions and the HUNH... in the context of college football only, I think this new rule goes a little too far; it weakens a viable tactic. But in the big picture, I see this change as college football going in the opposite direction as Roger Goodell's piss-poor excuse for a football organization, so it's probably a good thing.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30057 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:28 pm to
terrible rule, no way that should be happening
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted by secman12
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
1212 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:32 pm to
Hugh Freeze is 6-10 in SEC would think he would want any changes in rules he can get, what he is doing aint working, 7-6.....lol
Posted by spike0311
Member since Sep 2012
177 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:35 pm to

quote:

quote:
So what's the point of the rule then?

Exactly. Defenses have to get their conditioning up and coaches have to coach and manage the game better.


It would also help with replay. I am sure that often teams rush to the line before it is determined if a play should be reviewed.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38619 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 2:42 pm to
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it's only 11 seconds


Ask Auburn if 11 seconds made a difference.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
1915 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:26 pm to
I wonder if anyone proposing this rule remembers that there was a day when if you took a player out of the game he could only return once during that quarter. This meant that most players played both ways. Billy Cannon had to make the defensive stop (with starting QB Warren Rabb) to make his Halloween Run stand.

The advocates of the rule also claim that more injuries will come from the HUNH. But they can't prove it.

Saban and Bielema come off as whiners in this whole thing. You have to like that you never hear Miles complain about it. And his record against HUNH offenses is really good.

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