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re: Ncaa proposed rule change for no huddle

Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:00 pm to
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youre permitted to do it in the last 2 minutes of a game, you should be permitted to do it all game.


4min =/= 60min

its a fatigue issue.....
Posted by 03GeeTee
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:03 pm to
How about they focus on fixing the retarded "Targeting" rule first.
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:04 pm to
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How about they focus on fixing the retarded "Targeting" rule first.


Actually, they are.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:05 pm to
terrible idea, it pretty much kills late game comebacks
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Auburn faked plenty of people out this year by rush by rushing up to the line and then not snapping the ball immediately. Giving them time to see the defense and not allowing the subs to actually come in.


this is basically leveraging the rules in your favor, which is outside the spirit of competition, imo. However, more rules isn't really the answer.
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:10 pm to
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terrible idea, it pretty much kills late game comebacks


How so?
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:10 pm to
Terrible rule change.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:14 pm to
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this is basically leveraging the rules in your favor, which is outside the spirit of competition, imo. However, more rules isn't really the answer.



i don't see how that is possibly outside the spirit of competition. Manning has made a living out of it
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Ncaa proposed rule change for no huddle. Says must allow 10 seconds to run off play clock before snap

The NCAA is a joke. Why in the hell would they propose such a stupid arse rule? Are they intentionally trying to lose credibility?
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:15 pm to


good. I have a lot more respect for teams that are man enough to lineup and beat you fair and square instead of having to play bitch ball and beat you when you're not ready. It's the football equivalent of a sucker punch.

I"m not saying hurry up has no place in football, but for it to become a team's entire lifeblood and scheme? That's bush league and always has been.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:16 pm to
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quote:
How about they focus on fixing the retarded "Targeting" rule first.


Actually, they are.


no, it is still a shitty rule even with the change
Posted by PacWilly
Member since Jun 2010
554 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:16 pm to
I don't have a problem with this. The primary point of the rule is defensive substitutions - not the time and total plays. Because of the increase number of plays (generally), the defense should be able to substitute if they want to regardless of what the offense does. Nowadays, the offense can hold the defense "hostage" by running up to the line even if they do not intend to run the play (and we know from the numbers in this thread that they don't run those plays within 10 seconds). There was never a need for this rule in the past so it was a non-issue. The rules need to change with the times.

And...there are way too many rules that favor the offense these days. The defense should at least be able to substitute with fresh players.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:17 pm to
Won't pass in the rules committee

Saban is pushing for it hard though
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Exactly. Defenses have to get their conditioning up and coaches have to coach and manage the game b


Such BS. Defenses run a lot more than offenses. It's the lines where fatigue is an issue. Eventually, running hurry up neutralizes the pass rush. The Dline is expending a lot more energy every play than the Oline. Hence, the unfair advantage. I wish the rule would take it further and say 25 seconds.
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:24 pm to
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no, it is still a shitty rule even with the change


If it passes, it will beat the frick out of what was in place for 2013.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:25 pm to
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If it passes, it will beat the frick out of what was in place for 2013.



and it still would have resulted in the uga player getting ejected for the wrong call.

It certainly doesn't fix the rule
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:28 pm to
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and it still would have resulted in the uga player getting ejected for the wrong call.

It certainly doesn't fix the rule


What UGA player? Help me out here.

What would fix the rule?
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:34 pm to
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what happens on an incomplete pass? the clock doesn't start until the ball is snapped anyways. a team can run pretty much the same amount of plays, they just can't screw up the defensive substitutions for 11 seconds.


Kinda a dumb point! The play clock starts when the ball is spotted, whether or not clock game clock is running.
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Kinda a dumb point! The play clock starts when the ball is spotted, whether or not clock game clock is running.


Not really, the play clock starts when the ball becomes dead on the previous down generally speaking.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:40 pm to
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What UGA player? Help me out here.

What would fix the rule?



the player was ejected for grazing the helmet of the QB.

Well the rule shouldn't exist in the 1st place. If the rule has to exist, it should have to be malicious and egregious. Right now, a matter of inches results in ejection
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