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re: Naz Reid greater than Ben Simmons in the hearts & minds of tiger fans....

Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:54 am to
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:54 am to
we arent under NCAA investigation
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36416 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:55 am to
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Simmons left a bad taste in everyone's mouth and I'm sure LSU left a bad taste in his as well. But imagine the possibilities if he had played on this team right now. Take away Naz and insert Simmons and think about how you would feel about him. No doubt he would be loved and respected and I'm sure he would have much more love for P&G in that case as well.




That team had a crapload of talent as well. Simmons blakeney victor Sampson and quarterman were all big time recruits. Sure some of that is on coaching but that same coach made the tourney the year before. Some is on the other players but a lot is on Simmons. The biggest win of the season vs Kentucky he spent most of the game on the bench in foul trouble iirc. Or at least a half. There was also plenty of games where he filled up the stat sheet but down the stretch in a close game he was extremely passive and we lost. When you are the number 1 draft pick I think people expected a certain dawg to be in him and not defer as much. At least at the college level. The problem for him now and then is he’s not a shooter
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 11:58 am
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:58 am to
Simmons game was not built for college basketball that doesnt have defensive 3 seconds. Not sure why so many people have such a hardtime understanding why he excels in the pros compared to college but that rule is why. Teams could camp the paint on him since he cant shoot, where as in the nba the whole court is spaced. Johnny Jones was also one of the worst coaches ive ever watched in history.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22699 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:59 am to
Simmons didn’t care about winning anything at LSU and Naz does. It’s pretty simple.

Simmons was pretty open about treating his time in college as a chore and shockingly, did not endear himself to the fans the way he could have
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 11:59 am to
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he will. but, to be honest, he could probably use another year in college.

the last thing a guy like naz needs is another year in college.

his game really isn't going to be developed individually here. he'll improve his game a lot more in the next year if he goes to the nba, even if he doesn't get to play much next season.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:00 pm to
Ben was a decent college player. But it was his effort and not giving a shite that bothered me most.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
8572 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:01 pm to
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EVERYONE on this team is leaving. I'll make a $20 bet that NOBODY who's top 7 in minutes played this year is on this team next year. Who's going to stay on a program under NCAA investigation?

Regardless of how this plays out, Mays will be here next year.
Posted by Fullahits
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2018
51 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:01 pm to
Would you stay if Wade was gone next year?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46370 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:01 pm to
Why can't we like and support them both?

I don't understand why some tiger fans always have to shite on former players. It's not Simmons' fault he had to go to college for a year.
Posted by SlowurRole
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
855 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:02 pm to
I think his game was built just fine for college basketball. More like Johnny Jones was not built to coach college basketball

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Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
46370 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:03 pm to
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EVERYONE on this team is leaving. 

I'll make a $20 bet that NOBODY who's top 7 in minutes played this year is on this team next year. Who's going to stay on a program under NCAA investigation? 
That's a lot of dumb for 1 post.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22881 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:04 pm to
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But imagine the possibilities if he had played on this team right now. Take away Naz and insert Simmons and think about how you would feel about him
Simmons needed the ball in his hands to make a difference, that actually doesn't fit this team.

The conflict we saw with Quarterman, we'd see with Waters and Smart. Mays might be content spotting up waiting for a pass, our other guards wouldn't.

Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31460 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:04 pm to
Naz is a great Tiger.

Simmons...not so much.

Thee End.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36416 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:06 pm to
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I think his game was built just fine for college basketball. More like Johnny Jones was not built to coach college basketball



We traded Jarrell Martin and Jordan Mickey for Ben Simmons Craig victor and Antonio blakeney. One team made the tourney and one refused an invite to the nit. Jones deserves some blame and paid the price of it by losing his job. That doesn’t mean simmmons gets absolved if any guilt though.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted by KC_LSUFAN
Kansas City
Member since Jun 2017
622 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Would be a mistake to go pro. He’s not good enough yet


I concur....
That Dribble of his, i grind my teeth on
That Grandma 3pt shot of his, i scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (when he goes to shoot it)

He has been BALLER for us, and I'd not be mad if he left, but he could be Top 3,
if he stays and polishes a mini jump shot, and that wretched Dribble of his
Posted by SlowurRole
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
855 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:13 pm to
I'm not disagreeing with you. I just posted that his game was definitely good enough for college. I never said his heart, effort, or mental toughness was.
Posted by Dirtysouthdeacon
Dirtysouth
Member since Aug 2018
260 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:23 pm to
Having the #1 overall draft pick come from your school is never a bad thing. Ever. He did that for LSU and should be seen positively for that alone.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:24 pm to
Obviously he still did well at college basketball, thats not the point I was making and you know that. His game is on another level in the pros compared to college, because defenses can't exploit his shooting weakness as easy as in college.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36416 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Having the #1 overall draft pick come from your school is never a bad thing. Ever. He did that for LSU and should be seen positively for that alone.




ehhhhhhh


all that really did for LSU was create the "couldnt even make the tournament with Ben Simmons" phrase becoming widely used in our games. sure for a school like Murray State developing a lotto pick with Ja Morant creates a big spring board. Simmons was known to be the number 1 pick coming into the season and we flopped despite his singular statistical success and maintaining his NBA profile. All it did for us was make our program and staff look incompetent. compound that with him saying this
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Looking at it now, I don't really know what I learned, financially, or just being a person at LSU.
it did nothing for us positively other than us getting Will Wade. Which Alleva managed to screw up within 2 years
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 12:43 pm to
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He will be, plan since day 1 for him.


At least he wasn’t a 1/2 season and done like Simmons.
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