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re: Name one hire O has nailed since being brought on?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:00 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:00 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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And you didn’t respond to that fact that we are at the bottom of every statistical offensive category.
How can OL play be “great” when our offense is unquestionably not?
I never said the OL play has been great. You always do this shite. You can’t read
Our OL has been held together enough for us to beat some good teams. Despite the shuffling & the injuries, they have continued to play well enough for us to win most games. If you can’t respect that you truly do not understand this game.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Our OL has been held together enough for us to be some good teams. Despite the shuffling & the injuries, they have continued to play well enough for us to win most games. If you can’t respect that you truly do not understand this game.
Exactly. The fact that he is avoiding this fact just shows he can not be reasoned with.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:03 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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As soon as Miles’ DC is gone and Meyer's QB is gone,
could definitely be dicey then no doubt
i get what you are saying
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:03 pm to SammyTiger
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like Busch but Delpit was also a true freshmen last year. He’s going to improve regardless. Overall I like Busch but a safeties coach feels like a luxury when we suck so bad on offense.
So please tell me, what exactly are you willing to give a coach credit for??
Because You guys sure make the criteria to hate on a coach rather broad.
Like Greg McMahon hasn’t done a good job because Giles is the only one he trusts to handle punts?? Lol wut? He targeted, recruited& landed the best kicker in the nation. We don’t give up KO or PR yards on either unit. We routinely start our defensive series with touch backs on kickoffs. So delusional
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:04 pm to lsuhunt555
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Not to hate on our players, but they've done nothing that leads me to believe they need to leave. They'd do themselves more favors by coming back.
The draft grades and combine will determine whether or not they come back.
Not whether you believe they may potentially be drafted higher by returning.
They are both as physically developed as they will ever be and have had 2 and 3 years, respectively, under the tutelage of what many claim are the best best DL coaches of all time.
Why would there be some huge jump in another year?
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Based on your logic every time we lose a good player we should just quit the following season
I’ve said no such thing. Talk about logical fallacy
Losing Greedy will hurt. Period. If Fulton leaves as well, a guy that has every reason to be done with the NCAA there is, we are in serious trouble at corner and need immediate and significant improvement from guys that have shown nothing as this level.
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No I dont agree, your logic reads like a 7 year old's and I didnt feel like explaining it. We should lose one starter and the guy who will take his place has played very well THIS YEAR
Has the one starter we are losing not also played very well?
You tout depth for DBs and ignore losing depth in the backfield.
And I’d argue the players in the backfield aren’t the biggest problem with our running game anyway.
The OL, scheme, commitment to the run, and lack of identity on offense has been the biggest problem at all levels of the offense.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:04 pm to Geauxgurt
Dear God I'm no One fan at all. HATEA the hire, but we are a top ten team playing the toughest schedule in the country. Everything isn't a fail. Bama beats 98% of anyone in this country try year in and year out.....WE ARE THEIR SUPERBOWL we get the best plus some. Stop melting like little girls
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:10 pm to cj2002
Thank you bunch of people who with one lose to a team that’s killing everybody for years and this is the best team they may of ever had. Sounds like a bunch of bitches that just sit back and wait for something bad to happen then show up like they know something
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:13 pm to Lester Earl
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Our OL has been held together enough for us to beat some good teams
We are in the bottom half of rushing and our QB is constantly under pressure.
We’ve won games because we have a good defense and a QB that has made some clutch plays (and a good kicker).
Giving the OL credit for keeping most games close is to completely ignore the fact that if our OL play was better most of these games wouldn’t even be close at all.
If you can’t understand that, you don’t understand the game either.
You talk about all the guys that have missed time, does that mean we can expect much improved OL play next year?
You didn’t answer my question about winning the West, will you answer that one?
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:14 pm to Tigersonfire
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WE ARE THEIR SUPERBOWL
You are deluded if you really believe this.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:15 pm to Lester Earl
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Greg McMahon hasn’t done a good job because Giles is the only one he trusts to handle punts?? Lol wut? He targeted, recruited& landed the best kicker in the nation
I’m not arguing about McMahon, but that isn’t true. Tracy contacted the staff himself and sold himself to them, not the other way around.
And the return game isn’t good. That isn’t debatable.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:16 pm to Lester Earl
Like I said I dont Hate Busch.
I thinknour Safeties have played well.
McMahon has recruited well, and our kickers are great. Our return game is non-existent.
Cole Tracy has pretty much saved our season, but he’s a stopgap.
You’re a cubs fan right? Cole Tracy reminds me of when the cubs gave up prospects for Chapman. Was he great? Yes, but he was a 1 year rental, how do you justify the spot if you don’t win a championship?
And I’ll go on to say, Cole Tracy is worth a spot, but it sucks that we couldn’t do more with him, as far as hardware
Overall I think You’ll be hard pressed to find another staff who is constructed with a
OC/QB, WR, WR, RB, OL, DL, LB/DC, CB, Safties, ST coaches.
I thinknour Safeties have played well.
McMahon has recruited well, and our kickers are great. Our return game is non-existent.
Cole Tracy has pretty much saved our season, but he’s a stopgap.
You’re a cubs fan right? Cole Tracy reminds me of when the cubs gave up prospects for Chapman. Was he great? Yes, but he was a 1 year rental, how do you justify the spot if you don’t win a championship?
And I’ll go on to say, Cole Tracy is worth a spot, but it sucks that we couldn’t do more with him, as far as hardware
Overall I think You’ll be hard pressed to find another staff who is constructed with a
OC/QB, WR, WR, RB, OL, DL, LB/DC, CB, Safties, ST coaches.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:17 pm to Daringer
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Thank you bunch of people who with one lose to a team that’s killing everybody for years and this is the best team they may of ever had. Sounds like a bunch of bitches that just sit back and wait for something bad to happen then show up like they know something
It's not that LSU lost, it's that LSU failed to even compete.
Additionally, the issue is that LSU failed to compete for the exact same reason LSU has failed to compete in so many previous big games in the past.
Ed Orgeron promised to fix the offense. He has not fixed the offense, and that was exposed in the worst way possible.
If LSU lost 30-28 or 28-21, almost EVERYONE is grousing about the loss but thankful Orgeron has LSU closer to Alabama.
Instead, LSU is clearly further away.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:18 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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You talk about all the guys that have missed time, does that mean we can expect much improved OL play next year?
Unequivocally, yes.
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We’ve won games because we have a good defense and a QB that has made some clutch plays (and a good kicker).
Again, you can’t read. I haven’t said our OL has won us games. But they played good enough despite having to play ELEVEN frickin guys.
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You didn’t answer my question about winning the West, will you answer that one?
What is your question? I’m not reading all of your crying & bitching
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:19 pm to Mo Jeaux
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WE ARE THEIR SUPERBOWL
You are deluded if you really believe this.
oh leave them alone mo jeaux. they are in the 7 stages of grief right now at level....
1 shock
2 denial
3 anger
4 bargaining
5 depression
6 testing
7 acceptance
they are at level 4 right now trying to bargain their way out of another shitastic game by E against bama
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:22 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re a cubs fan right? Cole Tracy reminds me of when the cubs gave up prospects for Chapman. Was he great? Yes, but he was a 1 year rental, how do you justify the spot if you don’t win a championship?
You justify it because you owe it to the fans & especially the team to put the best product out there. Tracy has been worth his scholarship & how the season ends has no barring on that
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The return game isn’t good
Kickoffs are all but phased out of the game. You get maybe 1 per game. We’ve had a few decent ones.
There isn’t a punt returner they trust outside of Giles to catch the ball. Returning is the least important phase, & if you aren’t turning it over you are winning.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:24 pm to Lester Earl
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You talk about all the guys that have missed time, does that mean we can expect much improved OL play next year?
Unequivocally, yes.
Sweet.
But for real this time, right? Not like last year when we all heard the same thing?
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We’ve won games because we have a good defense and a QB that has made some clutch plays (and a good kicker).
Again, you can’t read. I haven’t said our OL has won us games. But they played good enough despite having to play ELEVEN frickin guys
Keep reading big fella
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We’ve won games because we have a good defense and a QB that has made some clutch plays (and a good kicker).
Giving the OL credit for keeping most games close is to completely ignore the fact that if our OL play was better most of these games wouldn’t even be close at all.
If you can’t understand that, you don’t understand the game either.
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What is your question? I’m not reading all of your crying & bitching
Should O be expected to win the West next year or not?
Also, should E be OC in 2019?
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:31 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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I’m not arguing about McMahon, but that isn’t true. Tracy contacted the staff himself and sold himself to them, not the other way around.
Link to that? That hasn’t been what the tape says
Iowa St special teams coordinator told McMahon about him, who then got in touch with Tracy, per Ross dellenger
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:36 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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But for real this time, right? Not like last year when we all heard the same thing?
If we have to cycle thru 11 lineman the line will never be what it is supposed to be
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Should O be expected to win the West next year or not?
I don’t expect O or anyone else in the West to beat Bama next year so no. LSU as a program can still position themselves where they want to be without winning that game.
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Also, should E be OC in 2019?
Bama game is a big strike on his body of work, but I’ve enjoyed his play calls this year when you separate the calls from the results. He doesn’t deserve to be fired. There are upgrades out there, however.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:37 pm to Lester Earl
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Link to that? That hasn’t been what the tape says
He said it himself on the SECN segment before either the UGA or UF game.
Not even hating on McMahon or O for that btw.
It was still a scholly that a lot of people complained about using for 1 year and they had to make the call and pull the trigger. And it was the right call.
It was worth it, even for a year.
Especially if this was a team that had potential to have a special season. Which it was, and likely still will be. We likely don’t beat Auburn and get a NY6 without him.
If this was a rebuild or reload year, it maybe doesn’t make as much sense because an additional O or D player could develop into a bigger contributor when the team is ready to compete.
But given the potential it was the right call to take him and O and M get full credit.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/6/18 at 12:41 pm to rstamp1
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He looks like he is upgrading the talent on the OL through recruiting.
Like who?
I love how people continue the, we have no talent bullshite. Well who has been brought in so far that is better than what we have? Who is going to improve this team? You have no clue. So far, the highest rated players Ed has signed can't even get on the field.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 12:47 pm
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