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re: My theory on what's happening in LSU Athletics
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:50 am to Bawser
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:50 am to Bawser
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Alleva thinks we have the best chance to compete in basketball
Considering Wade is already complaining about not getting promised facility upgrades, he has a funny way of showing it.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:51 am to Bawser
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becoming a basketball school again,
again? WTF?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:51 am to Brummy
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Considering Wade is already complaining about not getting promised facility upgrades, he has a funny way of showing it.
When I first read this, I started internally screaming "FIRE ALLEVA NOW, DAMMIT!!!"
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:52 am to Bawser
You are sooooooo wrong, I don't even know where to begin. You give Alleva too much credit for strategic thinking. I was never wild about the Orgeron hire, but you guys don't know shite about what happened in the hiring of Orgeron and te thinking behind it
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:52 am to Bawser
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but the point is we're not going to win championships while Saban is coaching Bama
While the goal is to always win championships, the real goal is to fill the stadium for each home game. Miles wasn't fired because he couldn't beat Saban, he was fired because he was losing to Ole Miss, Arky, and MSU. After Herman and Jimbo there was no clear cut top tier coach to go after.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:53 am to TigerNlc
If you look at its entire history - SEC Championships, Final Four appearances - LSU has put out some really good teams. They aren't Kentucky obviously, but they have plenty of history to speak of, including some of the best college basketball players ever to play the game.
But I understand - you have a myopic view on everything.
But I understand - you have a myopic view on everything.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:55 am to Bawser
Football is and always will big a much bigger cash cow.
So no.
So no.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:55 am to Bawser
all of that, or......Alleva is just not a good AD, or person for that matter.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:56 am to Bawser
You really need to stop trying to defend this theory. If Alleva hadn't inherited Coach K at Duke, he would have run that program into the ground too. Duke was more than happy to be rid of him.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:56 am to Bawser
I get what you are trying to say from a purely on the field point of view but your theory holds zero water when the many many other factors acting on an athletic department are factored in.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:59 am to Bawser
This thread is dumb and you are dumb. Alleva is not smart enough to have a plan...
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:00 am to Bawser
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My theory is that there is a polar shift in priority being implemented by Joe Alleva, which has been sold to F. King. We are becoming a basketball school again, where football is second or third wheel
You give Alleva way too much credit.
It's simple incompetence.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:03 am to Bawser
LSU football is a cash cow. Why would LSU run it into the ground?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:07 am to Bawser
so why isn't Alleva giving Wade the upgrades in certain area that were promised?
Here's my theory: Alleva is a idiot who hired a moron to be head coach of the football team
Here's my theory: Alleva is a idiot who hired a moron to be head coach of the football team
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:07 am to Bawser
I have seen “reaches”, and I have seen extreme reaches. But I don’t know that I have ever seen a more extreme reach than this .
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:08 am to Bawser
This doesn't deserve a response other than this is dumb as shite.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:09 am to Bawser
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- My theory is that there is a polar shift in priority being implemented by Joe Alleva, which has been sold to F. King. We are becoming a basketball school again, where football is second or third wheel. We have no intentions of winning championships in football while Saban is coaching Bama.
If even remotely true, both should be fired before noon.
1. Saban is not invincible. He's one of the best coaches of all time, but his teams have been beaten, usually by lesser teams.
2. Basketball will NEVER generate the money that a good (or even average) football team does. As bad as Alleva is, he isnt going to intentionally put a bad football product out there.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:11 am to Bawser
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O - he's the likeable local guy, he knows people can't help but support him and the team.
He may be in for a rude awakening if this shitshow continues.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:12 am to Bawser
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As long as we stay relative in football - middle of the pack, that's all he cares about.
We are not even "relative" right now, whatever that means.
And there is no way, he is that blind to the culture here that he thinks just being middle of the pack in football will fly for very long.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:12 am to Bawser
Jesus Christ!
1. Joe Alleva had nothing to do with Duke basketball. NOTHING! By the time he arrived at Duke Coach K already had seven Final Four appearances and two national titles. The only thing Joe Alleva did basketball-wise at Duke was stay out of the way.
2. Making LSU a "basketball school" at the expense of football makes no business sense whatsoever. A school can compete at a championship level at both, simultaneously...just ask the school LSU is about to play on Saturday. That aside, football is still far and away the biggest money maker on campus and it's not even a close second. You don't essentially give up and neglect your most profitable product. Even if LSU basketball becomes a powerhouse, it STILL will not command the interest that is SEC football. Plus, even if you sell out the entire basketball season (17 games this year) that total attendance figure would still be only 1/3rd of the amount of tickets a season sellout of football would bring.
Neglecting the football program at LSU would be athletic dept. suicide. The amount of money a great football program can make DWARFS that which a great college basketball program can make. Louisville, the most profitable college basketball program in American (well....they were) only brings in about $25 million. Compare that with LSU football which rakes in $140 million. It literally would make ZERO sense to purposely neglect the football program to make, at best, an extra $10 or so million dollars off the basketball program.
It THAT is Joe Alleva's plan then he solidifies himself as the dumbest athletic director in NCAA history
1. Joe Alleva had nothing to do with Duke basketball. NOTHING! By the time he arrived at Duke Coach K already had seven Final Four appearances and two national titles. The only thing Joe Alleva did basketball-wise at Duke was stay out of the way.
2. Making LSU a "basketball school" at the expense of football makes no business sense whatsoever. A school can compete at a championship level at both, simultaneously...just ask the school LSU is about to play on Saturday. That aside, football is still far and away the biggest money maker on campus and it's not even a close second. You don't essentially give up and neglect your most profitable product. Even if LSU basketball becomes a powerhouse, it STILL will not command the interest that is SEC football. Plus, even if you sell out the entire basketball season (17 games this year) that total attendance figure would still be only 1/3rd of the amount of tickets a season sellout of football would bring.
Neglecting the football program at LSU would be athletic dept. suicide. The amount of money a great football program can make DWARFS that which a great college basketball program can make. Louisville, the most profitable college basketball program in American (well....they were) only brings in about $25 million. Compare that with LSU football which rakes in $140 million. It literally would make ZERO sense to purposely neglect the football program to make, at best, an extra $10 or so million dollars off the basketball program.
It THAT is Joe Alleva's plan then he solidifies himself as the dumbest athletic director in NCAA history
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 10:13 am
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