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re: Mr. McMahon's Introductory Press Conference (Live Link)

Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by LSU_2017
Member since May 2020
407 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:19 pm to
That’s a confident dude. I’m excited.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:09 pm to
It’s funny so many are eager to compare this guy unfavorably to Wade based on a press conference when the guy is actually coming in with a better resume than Wade had
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37338 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:21 pm to
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5-10 year set back after firing Wade...


The program is getting set back because of Will Wade. Honestly, I don't see what you find redeemable in that guy knowing that his limited success will come at the expense of LSU.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
21231 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:49 pm to
Wade won't be coaching again anytime soon. 5 year show cause minimum. 10 years wouldn't be a shock, Donnie Tyndall got 10 for a lot less than Wade did.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
5034 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 7:51 pm to
frick it.....lesssgeaux
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10953 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 8:09 pm to
It’s interesting to see some of the negative reactions here. In that presser I heard intelligence and intensity. I’m excited to see what this guy can build here.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 8:24 pm to
Hopefully this coach is smart enough to not pay recruits and their girlfriends out of his own checking account. Use a bag man and some discretion coach! Or go the NIL route and get these kids some money the legal way
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16386 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:16 am to
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The program is getting set back because of Will Wade. Honestly, I don't see what you find redeemable in that guy knowing that his limited success will come at the expense of LSU.


Thumbs up on this.
Wade’s success comes at the expense of our program for his hideously stupid decisions

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16386 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:19 am to
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I could care less what his demeanor is.


So you care about his demeanor?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:51 am to
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It’s funny so many are eager to compare this guy unfavorably to Wade based on a press conference when the guy is actually coming in with a better resume than Wade had


They are comparing their demeanors at the press conferences bozo. Not their coaching ability. McMahon will get to prove that on the court. Wade's introductory press conference gave a sense of excitement and hope for a program that was, at best, apathetic. You could sense his energy and enthusiasm to build the program into a potential powerhouse.

McMahon was more subdued yesterday. No one is saying that is a bad thing or that he can't coach simply because of a relatively low energy press conference. Just that it was low energy compare to the guy he is replacing who, like it or not, had the most successful consecutive 4 year run in three decades.


Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172202 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:14 am to
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Wade's introductory press conference gave a sense of excitement and hope for a program that was, at best, apathetic


That excitement and emphasis on it was definitely much needed coming off Jones’s last 2 seasons where he missed the postseason completely with a very talented roster, then 16/17 where the team was predictably abysmal. I’m one of the biggest basketball fans here and i only watched about a game and a half that season because i knew how bad they’d be and it was obvious Jones was a dead man walking.

Yesterday i welcomed the down to business like approach. Considering Wade elevated the fan interest and delivered with wins and tournament appearances, that ra-ra energy wasn’t as necessary. Had he been presented in the union to a room full of students im sure the energy would’ve been a little more profound. He’s got that “im here to coach basketball” vibe about him which i like
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8305 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:25 am to
I purchased season tickets the day after hearing Wade’s introductory press conference and loved his personality as a fan.

However, Wade’s teams lacked discipline and fundamentals. I’d say this is inarguable when watching the consistent unforced errors, lack of boxing out and inability to create movement on offense. Also, how he rarely took players out of the lineup when consistently playing idiotic. He also was a bit of a hot head on the sidelines, which was fun to watch as a fan, but doesn’t necessarily scream ‘leader’.

I love Will Wade. I wish he could have been here for decades because I think as he matures he will get better and better. His immaturity and naïveté, though, is what led to his downfall.

With McMahon I see a man who is much more mature than Wade in almost every facet. He may not be as fun or exciting, but I can almost guarantee you his teams will play hard, focused and disciplined. I could care less about his press conferences, I want to watch a well coached basketball team play in harmony with each other.

As a man who has played for ‘teacher’ coaches and ‘cheerleader’ coaches, I’ll take the teacher coach every time. If a player only wants to come here to be cheered on and not developed as a better player and teammate, I don’t want him anyway.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:06 am to
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However, Wade’s teams lacked discipline and fundamentals. I’d say this is inarguable when watching the consistent unforced errors, lack of boxing out and inability to create movement on offense. Also, how he rarely took players out of the lineup when consistently playing idiotic. He also was a bit of a hot head on the sidelines, which was fun to watch as a fan, but doesn’t necessarily scream ‘leader’.


Wade's philosophy was predicated on aggression. That was item #1 he mentioned at the press conference. They were going to be aggressive and attacking on offense. There were going to be aggressive and attacking on defense (they were...though to their detriment until this past season). Wade was going to be aggressive in selling the program. Most of all, he was going to be aggressive in getting players (he was...to his detriment). So Wade took the approach that he could live with guys making mistakes as long as they were aggressive. And truth be told, the turnovers for LSU were never a problem until this year.

If Wade had a coaching downfall it appears to be his refusal to adjust his approach based upon the talent he had. The offense LSU had in Wade's first 4 seasons, even without a ton of ball movement, worked tremendously because they had the guards to execute it. This year LSU didn't have that caliber of guards and the offense suffered greatly because of it. LSU probably needed to adjust their approach this year.

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He may not be as fun or exciting,


We'll see. McMahon's style may be even more "exciting". The absolute best things he said in his press conference yesterday were (1) that they were going to play fast and that he couldn't understand when guys said they wanted to go to a school to be developed into an NBA player, only to go to a school that played games where the score was 48-46, and (2) he believes in balanced teams. That is teams that were solid on both ends of the floor. The SINGLE BIGGEST REASON Wade's teams probably weren't as good as they could have been is because they were anything but balanced. 2019 was the only season where they came close. Every other year they were elite on one end (mostly offense) and terrible on the other.

The biggest question is can he recruit with the big boys? You are not going to win in the SEC by just hoping to find and develop "diamonds in the rough." Or at least win consistently. Even though they weren't "caught", you can bet your arse Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, etc are ALL doing the same type of recruiting Wade was doing in those same circles.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172202 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:10 am to
We should’ve played similar to the “boring” Spurs teams of the big 3 era. You had your 3&D Bruce Bowen in Mwani, a penetrator (though not as good a scorer as Parker, who like Pinson wasn’t ever really considered a great shooter) a tall post, a creator in Eason, then a guy like Days to be your Antonio McDyess. Penetrate, kick, pass, extra pass, good look after good look.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65392 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 11:18 am to
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He also was a bit of a hot head on the sidelines, which was fun to watch as a fan, but doesn’t necessarily scream ‘leader


How many technical fouls did he get in 5 years at LSU? How many games was he ejected?
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8305 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 12:28 pm to
The hot head comment is more so in how he reacted on the sidelines and interacted with officials. At times it verged on childish (even if warranted). That kind of reaction is not unique to Wade, plenty of coaches do it…and it’s fun to see as a fan, but it doesn’t build respect from officials.

At the end of the day I’m just trying to make myself feel better. I’ve been mildly depressed since Wade was fired.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:14 pm to
Actually it sounds like some are making assumptions about how successful he will be based on his demeanor. Bozo
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 4:21 pm to
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The biggest question is can he recruit with the big boys? You are not going to win in the SEC by just hoping to find and develop "diamonds in the rough." Or at least win consistently. Even though they weren't "caught", you can bet your arse Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, etc are ALL doing the same type of recruiting Wade was doing in those same circles.


He had the top class in his conference numerous times and finished second or third in his conference recruiting rankings multiple other times. He’s a good recruiter.

Additionally, despite not getting top 100 players at a program like Murray State is not the bar there. Nobody at mid majors is pulling top 100 players.

With his “diamonds in the rough” he still built a team that would have kicked our asses this season.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
25202 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:32 am to
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He had the top class in his conference numerous times and finished second or third in his conference recruiting rankings multiple other times. He’s a good recruiter


So did Steve Prohm and Billy Kennedy from his same school.

He was a good recruiter at a school where you didn't need to pay players. It is different in the SEC and it is a legitimate question to have. It could work out great with recruiting or it could be Trent Johnson days of refusing to recruit great players who had requests on the trail
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16386 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:27 am to
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The hot head comment is more so in how he reacted on the sidelines ….. At times it verged on childish (even if warranted). That kind of reaction is not unique to Wade, plenty of coaches do it…and it’s fun to see as a fan, but it doesn’t build respect from officials.


I always suspected that this stuff was part of why Wade was so popular with the fans. I always saw it as a contrived behavior to make it look like the world was him against him and he was fighting real hard against the giant enemy even though he created the enemy by acting like a prick.

I think he did that against the lsu admin too.
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